January 2019 Transfer Window

Papa Shango · January 3, 2019

Moomin said:
They pick the players they want, or whats best available to them.

I can only speak for the NFL in regards to American sports but the draft system works well for it. Would not work in the UK and Europe though due to each team having a youth system.

But, the NFL is much fairer than the premier league and very socialist compared to the Premier League.

The only way it could work is if they adopted a centralized league system at youth level, it may actually provide a viable league to watch too if they did it right.

It wouldn't happen though like you say as football is a global game.

Nymzee · January 3, 2019

Moomin said:
They pick the players they want, or whats best available to them.

I can only speak for the NFL in regards to American sports but the draft system works well for it. Would not work in the UK and Europe though due to each team having a youth system.

But, the NFL is much fairer than the premier league and very socialist compared to the Premier League.

Doesn’t the league own all the players in NFL/NBA etc. instead of the clubs?

WA Toffee · January 3, 2019

crackers said:
Is that really true? At 21 shearer had moved to Blackburn for an English record fee, Henry had won a world cup medal and kane scored over 20 goals for spurs in a league campaign and over 30 in all competitions.

When they were 19 (which is what the poster mentioned), Shearer scored 3 league goals for the season, Henry got 4 and Kane got 3.
It seems all 3 of them had pretty poor stats at 19, but amazing stats at 21

LostLegend · January 3, 2019

bol-uk said:
Weird the Malcom bit, we were strongly linked in the summer but I thought Brands had said Lolzano is too much of a risk as no prem experience so a bid of 20 mil would be max yet we could bid 35 for malcolm?!

Also, badly Everton that we show interest (if true) in an exciting player and a bloody chinese team blows our bid out of the water.

I suspect there’s a fair amount of ‘Smoke & Mirrors’ when it comes to Brands comments on transfer dealings.

We’ve already shown that we are happy to pay over £20mil for players with no PL experience this season (Digne & Mina)

Who knows, though?

Steve0 · January 3, 2019

Eggs said:
...a 28 year old journeyman wing back is unlikely to be on Brands radar for a right back.

Moses was a key member of Chelseas title winning side just two years ago. Played a lot last year too, Sarri clearly doesn't fancy him but he's be a good buy imo.

Slightly too old but still got 5/6 years left. And a definite improvement.

Verbal Kint · January 3, 2019

Can Malcolm play in the middle ??

He just might have that X factor

Its a YES from me

originalgreaserbob · January 3, 2019

Papa Shango said:
The only way it could work is if they adopted a centralized league system at youth level, it may actually provide a viable league to watch too if they did it right.

It wouldn't happen though like you say as football is a global game.

Right. It only works because the NFL and NBA are monopolies. But also the presence of relegation makes them two different kinds of businesses. In America agreeing to a draft in the interests of "competitive balance" really doesn't cost the big teams anything. They still make tons of money even if they're terrible (e.g. the New York Knicks). In Europe, if you're not one of the best teams, you can cease to be a big team. That's why in American sports, salary caps are the same for each team, but in Europe the salary cap (FFP, etc.) is based on each team's income. Because the big teams in Europe can't afford competitive balance.

Note: Europe includes England. This is not a political thing, I just mean it as "not North American."

TheBigIguana · January 3, 2019

originalgreaserbob said:
Right. It only works because the NFL and NBA are monopolies. But also the presence of relegation makes them two different kinds of businesses. In America agreeing to a draft in the interests of "competitive balance" really doesn't cost the big teams anything. They still make tons of money even if they're terrible (e.g. the New York Knicks). In Europe, if you're not one of the best teams, you can cease to be a big team. That's why in American sports, salary caps are the same for each team, but in Europe the salary cap (FFP, etc.) is based on each team's income. Because the big teams in Europe can't afford competitive balance.

Note: Europe includes England. This is not a political thing, I just mean it as "not North American."

The differences between the US sport systems and those around the world are fascinating to me. In the case of football I think the key difference is for 100 years leading up to 1992 the clubs didn't exist to make money in the same way that US franchises did. 1992 changed that but the structure remained the same which has led us to this crazy system we have now where money is all over the place but who gets it isn't really controlled and the gap from top to bottom seems to be getting wider and wider.

Nymzee · January 3, 2019

Verbal Kint said:
Can Malcolm play in the middle ??

He just might have that X factor

Its a YES from me

Malcom X?

Nymzee · January 3, 2019

Why do people think Victor Moses is a RB?

originalgreaserbob · January 3, 2019

TheBigIguana said:
The differences between the US sport systems and those around the world are fascinating to me. In the case of football I think the key difference is for 100 years leading up to 1992 the clubs didn't exist to make money in the same way that US franchises did. 1992 changed that but the structure remained the same which has led us to this crazy system we have now where money is all over the place but who gets it isn't really controlled and the gap from top to bottom seems to be getting wider and wider.

Right: the clubs existed long before the leagues, and the leagues grew out of the big competitions between all teams. In the US the leagues came first, often putting teams where none had existed before. So the first teams got to make the rules, and relegation is never a rule a group of rich guys would agree to.

evertonarntwe · January 3, 2019

Nymzee said:
Why do people think Victor Moses is a RB?

he's not, but he can play RWB which is what we have started to use in a few of the last games

can't see him sticking with that formation or us signing moses like

Tel001 · January 3, 2019

Nymzee said:
What’s that got to do with anything.

Saying TA had a season with Swansea and done nothing so he’s crap, but also rating DRKSSL despite having 2-3 seasons and being gash himself

Darth Toffeeman · January 3, 2019

Moomin said:
They pick the players they want, or whats best available to them.

I can only speak for the NFL in regards to American sports but the draft system works well for it. Would not work in the UK and Europe though due to each team having a youth system.

But, the NFL is much fairer than the premier league and very socialist compared to the Premier League.

The draft system is superb.

Of course it could never work in the financially dopped game here, where only a select few sides can actually win the big prizes.

As regards the game in general, NFL has moved ahead of soccer as my favourite sport to watch. Never imagined that would ever be the case.

tnc85 · January 3, 2019

Steve0 said:
Moses was a key member of Chelseas title winning side just two years ago. Played a lot last year too, Sarri clearly doesn't fancy him but he's be a good buy imo.

Slightly too old but still got 5/6 years left. And a definite improvement.

Good shout mate.