2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[BlueToff]

Not really just them though is it mate

Huddersfield and west ham also

Southampton in the cup

Bournemouth we threw away a 2 goal lead from when we had a man less

The derby last kick

Now not saying this is Silvas fault as some of it clearly isn't but there have been a fair share of stinkers this season

But people are losing their heads at the moment because of Newcastle and Watford. That was my point.

And of course there has been, because it's a rebuilding process. Anybody who expected it was going to be a smooth transition to being brilliant needs to give their heads a wobble.

 

[evertonarntwe]

But people are losing their heads at the moment because of Newcastle and Watford. That was my point.

And of course there has been, because it's a rebuilding process. Anybody who expected it was going to be a smooth transition to being brilliant needs to give their heads a wobble.

to be fair mate, it's the internet we could go on a 30 game winning streak then lose away at city and people would lose there heads

I know we are building, but football is black and white really init, 11 players vs 11 players, and when you have 11 better players than your oppisition you should expect to win games regardless of building or not ( not always the case obviously ) so why are we dropping so many points against teams not as good?

 

[Nyhus]

Give Marco time, he will come through for us. We play much better football, and its just a matter of time before the results starts showing that. A couple of key signings, and we’ll be off to the races.

 

[GwladysBlue]

I've said this a few times now, but up until Saturday we had an identical record to what Spurs had in Poch's first season, with better results against the 'top sides'.

We cocked up against Watford and Newcastle, but really, that's it. Four points dropped. I'm confident we'll get those four points back at times we don't expect to, as well.

if you're looking solely at the table, which we're where we should be anyway probably, you're ignoring any context.

We should be behind Wolves?

 

[BlueToff]

We should be behind Wolves?

We're in the group chasing seventh (as it turns out, currently sixth, due to Utd's failings).

That's where most of us would have expected us to be around this time, taking into account how we have to rebuild from last season. Really, we could have been higher, but for one reason or another aren't. But that happens, it's a long old season.

 

[EverBlue92]

We're in the group chasing seventh (as it turns out, currently sixth, due to Utd's failings).

That's where most of us would have expected us to be around this time, taking into account how we have to rebuild from last season. Really, we could have been higher, but for one reason or another aren't. But that happens, it's a long old season.

My argument would be that the resources at the club now and the money spent we shouldn't be in the same pack as those you have mentioned. In reality it should be:

Top 6

7th

8th-10th

11th-17th

18th -20th

Realistically we should be miles ahead of the chasing back in 7th and had Moshiri appointed a genuinely quality manager we could have realistically turned it into a top 7 and be finishing within those higher places regulary.

Obviously the disaster of last season means its not all Silva's fault however the money spent in the summer and the money likely to be spent in Janaury in comparison to those clubs around us means there should be no excuses come the seasons end if we are not in minimum 7th.

If we aint and I was Moshiri I would seriously question why am I pumping hundreds of millions into a club to be behind clubs with owners putting in half of what I am - and the buck therefore has to stop at the manager.

 

[GwladysBlue]

We're in the group chasing seventh (as it turns out, currently sixth, due to Utd's failings).

That's where most of us would have expected us to be around this time, taking into account how we have to rebuild from last season. Really, we could have been higher, but for one reason or another aren't. But that happens, it's a long old season.

Nah, that doesn’t wash, does it?

Should Watford, Bournemouth, Leicester, West Ham and Wolves be in a group with us, after our continuous heavy investment?

The club has expectations and, as of right now, we aren’t meeting them.

All of them clubs have had similar uncertain times recently, but they still shouldn’t be at a level to be competing with Everton. We had a rough time last season and still finished 8th.

If we’re not at the very least 7th come the season’s end, Marco Silva will have failed miserably in his first season.

 

[BlueToff]

My argument would be that the resources at the club now and the money spent we shouldn't be in the same pack as those you have mentioned. In reality it should be:

Top 6

7th

8th-10th

11th-17th

18th -20th

Realistically we should be miles ahead of the chasing back in 7th and had Moshiri appointed a genuinely quality manager we could have realistically turned it into a top 7 and be finishing within those higher places regulary.

Obviously the disaster of last season means its not all Silva's fault however the money spent in the summer and the money likely to be spent in Janaury in comparison to those clubs around us means there should be no excuses come the seasons end if we are not in minimum 7th.

If we aint and I was Moshiri I would seriously question why am I pumping hundreds of millions into a club to be behind clubs with owners putting in half of what I am - and the buck therefore has to stop at the manager.

And it may well be by the end of the season. We weren't miles ahead of the chasing pack at the same time in Koeman's first season, yet we finished 11 points (?) clear of 8th place in the end.

People are acting like the season's over. For Christ's sake it's not even halfway through.

The fact that we could - and should, because of the chances we've missed - be higher is testament to the fact that we're building something. It's frustrating that we're not but it is what it is. We know the weaknesses and we seem on the right track to iron them out, whether it takes a quick fix or it's a longer process.

 

[BlueToff]

Nah, that doesn’t wash, does it?

Should Watford, Bournemouth, Leicester, West Ham and Wolves be in a group with us, after our continuous heavy investment?

The club has expectations and, as of right now, we aren’t meeting them.

All of them clubs have had similar uncertain times recently, but they still shouldn’t be at a level to be competing with Everton. We had a rough time last season and still finished 8th.

If we’re not at the very least 7th come the season’s end, Marco Silva will have failed miserably in his first season.

It's DECEMBER!

Last time I checked, nobody wins anything in December - apart from Kopites and their imaginary trophies.

 

[Goat]

It's DECEMBER!

Last time I checked, nobody wins anything in December - apart from Kopites and their imaginary trophies.

23 years mate, we could have won the Beating West Ham at Home trophy.

 

[neil999]

Nah, that doesn’t wash, does it?

Should Watford, Bournemouth, Leicester, West Ham and Wolves be in a group with us, after our continuous heavy investment?

The club has expectations and, as of right now, we aren’t meeting them.

All of them clubs have had similar uncertain times recently, but they still shouldn’t be at a level to be competing with Everton. We had a rough time last season and still finished 8th.

If we’re not at the very least 7th come the season’s end, Marco Silva will have failed miserably in his first season.

I still dont think you understand that its his first season in charge, maybe you did forgeteth?

 

[Zatara]

My argument would be that the resources at the club now and the money spent we shouldn't be in the same pack as those you have mentioned. In reality it should be:

Top 6

7th

8th-10th

11th-17th

18th -20th

Realistically we should be miles ahead of the chasing back in 7th and had Moshiri appointed a genuinely quality manager we could have realistically turned it into a top 7 and be finishing within those higher places regulary.

Obviously the disaster of last season means its not all Silva's fault however the money spent in the summer and the money likely to be spent in Janaury in comparison to those clubs around us means there should be no excuses come the seasons end if we are not in minimum 7th.

If we aint and I was Moshiri I would seriously question why am I pumping hundreds of millions into a club to be behind clubs with owners putting in half of what I am - and the buck therefore has to stop at the manager.

Nah, that doesn’t wash, does it?

Should Watford, Bournemouth, Leicester, West Ham and Wolves be in a group with us, after our continuous heavy investment?

The club has expectations and, as of right now, we aren’t meeting them.

All of them clubs have had similar uncertain times recently, but they still shouldn’t be at a level to be competing with Everton. We had a rough time last season and still finished 8th.

If we’re not at the very least 7th come the season’s end, Marco Silva will have failed miserably in his first season.

And it may well be by the end of the season. We weren't miles ahead of the chasing pack at the same time in Koeman's first season, yet we finished 11 points (?) clear of 8th place in the end.

People are acting like the season's over. For Christ's sake it's not even halfway through.

The fact that we could - and should, because of the chances we've missed - be higher is testament to the fact that we're building something. It's frustrating that we're not but it is what it is. We know the weaknesses and we seem on the right track to iron them out, whether it takes a quick fix or it's a longer process.

I still dont think you understand that its his first season in charge, maybe you did forgeteth?

Its important to remember that the squad was built for Moyes, Martinez, Koeman and Allardyce and is now playing a totally different style

The players needed to adjust to the system and also the new players needed to bed in and adapt (most from overseas). Not only this but Mina, Gomes and Bernard came in from injuries.

The other teams have mostly settled teams, United, Bournemouth etc have had similar teams out for 2 seasons or more...

Just because money was spent last year doesnt have much effect when a new manager comes in if the players dont suit him.

If NEXT season were not challenging 5th or 6th then PERHAPS questions need to be asked depending on what Brands and Silva do in the market.

 

[GwladysBlue]

It's DECEMBER!

Last time I checked, nobody wins anything in December - apart from Kopites and their imaginary trophies.

Your point being? In work, do you not have interim and full year reviews?

He’s halfway through the season, I’d say this is a good point to be reviewing his performance so far. As it is, he is failing on the expectation required of him.

 

[neil999]

Your point being? In work, do you not have interim and full year reviews?

He’s halfway through the season, I’d say this is a good point to be reviewing his performance so far. As it is, he is failing on the expectation required of him.

your expectations...

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Looking at some of the games this round, he really should’ve taken the league cup more seriously.

Yeah - I always think we should make that our number one priority, as we could actually win it. The FA Cup is much harder - even the year we beat Man utd to get to the final we had then to play a oil-funded full strength peak Chelsea