New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[Baldynut]

To answe a few of these type questions I've got, I wonder if we have bitten off more tha we can chew when it comes to BMD.

CLEARLY it's a massively ambitious project. It going to be more difficult and expensive than any normal build as firstly...we'll... It's a dock. So even before preparitory works can be made the whole thing needs to be sealed off, emptied and built up again. That's before they even start on building the stadium. Then there's design issues with it being so close to the water and on reclaimed land. It couldn't just be the same as any other stadium, it would need to be reinforced. Then there's the actual design on the surrounding area, the road, restructuring etc.

Now it's a fact that we have struggled to get finance for it. It's been mentioned on here several times. The council money is also by no means certain.

So that's what I mean about stone bridge cross. It would be far far cheaper to build an even bigger stadia there than BMD because there aren't even half of the issues there that we face with the dock. As a result it would have been easier to get fiances for it and I think if we had chosen that location TWO YEARS AGO we would have seen progress on it by now.

So that's what I mean. Bitten off more than we could chew. It's hugely ambitious BMD and I think any club would struggle with the implications of it, or indeed any developer which is why it's lain untouched for so long.


Also a message to certain posters, Brisan 123 in particular. these are MY OPINIONS on the matter. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM but you DO NOT NEED TO INSULT ME EITHER.

Yep.....deffo from the pit

 

[wainy]

To answe a few of these type questions I've got, I wonder if we have bitten off more tha we can chew when it comes to BMD.

CLEARLY it's a massively ambitious project. It going to be more difficult and expensive than any normal build as firstly...we'll... It's a dock. So even before preparitory works can be made the whole thing needs to be sealed off, emptied and built up again. That's before they even start on building the stadium. Then there's design issues with it being so close to the water and on reclaimed land. It couldn't just be the same as any other stadium, it would need to be reinforced. Then there's the actual design on the surrounding area, the road, restructuring etc.

Now it's a fact that we have struggled to get finance for it. It's been mentioned on here several times. The council money is also by no means certain.

So that's what I mean about stone bridge cross. It would be far far cheaper to build an even bigger stadia there than BMD because there aren't even half of the issues there that we face with the dock. As a result it would have been easier to get fiances for it and I think if we had chosen that location TWO YEARS AGO we would have seen progress on it by now.

So that's what I mean. Bitten off more than we could chew. It's hugely ambitious BMD and I think any club would struggle with the implications of it, or indeed any developer which is why it's lain untouched for so long.


Also a message to certain posters, Brisan 123 in particular. these are MY OPINIONS on the matter. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM but you DO NOT NEED TO INSULT ME EITHER.

Easier to get finance on a wasteland in an area nobody would want to visit apart from match day, or, finance a world class stadium in a prime location on a water front known the world over. Ok mate.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

I think some here are still obsessed with size. It's just as important to generate $$$ per individual. And a prime location will bring more tourist $$$. But regardless, we start winning at all, interest in the club will increase and drive revenue. We still just need to be in the same league as some of these clubs. We don't need to set records for transfer fees on several positions just to do that.

 

[blulouie]

Now it's a fact that we have struggled to get finance for it. It's been mentioned on here several times.

Please enlighten us on the "fact" please .
Are you part of Moshiri's inner circle and privvy to this knowledge . Or are you just guessing by what a few doom & gloom merchants on an internet forum write ?
If its the former please show us these facts.

As a result it would have been easier to get fiances for it

Again more guesswork ?
Just why would it be "easier" to get finance on some wasteland on the city's boundary than a prestigious, iconic location on the city's waterfront ?

You seem to pride yourself on "your opinions" but your opinions show uo as nothing other than nonesense.

Not at all sure you are a blue either.

 

[Brisan123]

To answe a few of these type questions I've got, I wonder if we have bitten off more tha we can chew when it comes to BMD.

CLEARLY it's a massively ambitious project. It going to be more difficult and expensive than any normal build as firstly...we'll... It's a dock. So even before preparitory works can be made the whole thing needs to be sealed off, emptied and built up again. That's before they even start on building the stadium. Then there's design issues with it being so close to the water and on reclaimed land. It couldn't just be the same as any other stadium, it would need to be reinforced. Then there's the actual design on the surrounding area, the road, restructuring etc.

Now it's a fact that we have struggled to get finance for it. It's been mentioned on here several times. The council money is also by no means certain.

So that's what I mean about stone bridge cross. It would be far far cheaper to build an even bigger stadia there than BMD because there aren't even half of the issues there that we face with the dock. As a result it would have been easier to get fiances for it and I think if we had chosen that location TWO YEARS AGO we would have seen progress on it by now.

So that's what I mean. Bitten off more than we could chew. It's hugely ambitious BMD and I think any club would struggle with the implications of it, or indeed any developer which is why it's lain untouched for so long.


Also a message to certain posters, Brisan 123 in particular. these are MY OPINIONS on the matter. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM but you DO NOT NEED TO INSULT ME EITHER.

It’s not just me though is it ??
A few have you kopped on

See what I did there

 

[radiostar]

Yep.....deffo from the pit

Baffles me this. How could one mans opinion mean this?

Do you think that Liverpool fans could potentially de rail BMD by posting in a fans forum about it ?

No they can't.

It's been chosen as the place to build and no matter how many items I post about it, it WONT CHANGE.

10000 reds could post about it and it still won't change.

What would be the point.

I'm allowed to have my opinion on a new ground just like you are. Just because it's different to your opinion doesn't give you the right to throw the insults around.

Personally I'd rather see a new ground built somewhere rather than not at all.

And I've made it pretty we'll known on here that I don't believe BMD will ever get the go ahead.

You can also go on about the prime location till your blue in the face. Until the work has begun, that location is entirely useless to us.

 

[HongKongToffee]

It's amazing how slow this is becoming.

From one power point presentation to zilch.

I need to see more pictures and not ones done by a GCSE level art student like that presentation.

 

[Brisan123]

To answe a few of these type questions I've got, I wonder if we have bitten off more tha we can chew when it comes to BMD.

CLEARLY it's a massively ambitious project. It going to be more difficult and expensive than any normal build as firstly...we'll... It's a dock. So even before preparitory works can be made the whole thing needs to be sealed off, emptied and built up again. That's before they even start on building the stadium. Then there's design issues with it being so close to the water and on reclaimed land. It couldn't just be the same as any other stadium, it would need to be reinforced. Then there's the actual design on the surrounding area, the road, restructuring etc.

Now it's a fact that we have struggled to get finance for it. It's been mentioned on here several times. The council money is also by no means certain.

So that's what I mean about stone bridge cross. It would be far far cheaper to build an even bigger stadia there than BMD because there aren't even half of the issues there that we face with the dock. As a result it would have been easier to get fiances for it and I think if we had chosen that location TWO YEARS AGO we would have seen progress on it by now.

So that's what I mean. Bitten off more than we could chew. It's hugely ambitious BMD and I think any club would struggle with the implications of it, or indeed any developer which is why it's lain untouched for so long.


Also a message to certain posters, Brisan 123 in particular. these are MY OPINIONS on the matter. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM but you DO NOT NEED TO INSULT ME EITHER.

I didn’t insult you , I called you a kopite
Now if you regard supporting the cult an insult there’s nothing I can do about that

 

[radiostar]

Please enlighten us on the "fact" please .
Are you part of Moshiri's inner circle and privvy to this knowledge . Or are you just guessing by what a few doom & gloom merchants on an internet forum write ?
If its the former please show us these facts.


Again more guesswork ?
Just why would it be "easier" to get finance on some wasteland on the city's boundary than a prestigious, iconic location on the city's waterfront ?

You seem to pride yourself on "your opinions" but your opinions show uo as nothing other than nonesense.

Not at all sure you are a blue either.

At least you are interested in a debate about it unlike some others.

As for the evidence I have been in a privileged position when it comes to Everton over the last few years as I have a member of the family working for the club in a reasonably high position. Obviously I'm not going to divulge the name on here as I don't want any trouble for this person. I'm sure you understand that.

Combine with what I hear on a almost daily basis on this very forum I form my own opinions on the subject.

As for the finance, I'm basing this purely on the fact it would be cheaper. It's going to cost millions before a digger is on site at BMD whereas at another location it wouldnt be.


My final opinion on this matter is I'd rather stay at Goodison Park and redevelop that than move anywhere. We have been told that is impossible however I do not believe it is as impossible as they say. For this I have no evidence other than what I wish.

 

[radiostar]

I didn’t insult you , I called you a kopite
Now if you regard supporting the cult an insult there’s nothing I can do about that

Goodbye x

 

[Baldynut]

At least you are interested in a debate about it unlike some others.

As for the evidence I have been in a privileged position when it comes to Everton over the last few years as I have a member of the family working for the club in a reasonably high position. Obviously I'm not going to divulge the name on here as I don't want any trouble for this person. I'm sure you understand that.

Combine with what I hear on a almost daily basis on this very forum I form my own opinions on the subject.

As for the finance, I'm basing this purely on the fact it would be cheaper. It's going to cost millions before a digger is on site at BMD whereas at another location it wouldnt be.


My final opinion on this matter is I'd rather stay at Goodison Park and redevelop that than move anywhere. We have been told that is impossible however I do not believe it is as impossible as they say. For this I have no evidence other than what I wish.

Of course you would rather us stay at `Woodison`

 

[blulouie]

At least you are interested in a debate about it unlike some others.

As for the evidence I have been in a privileged position when it comes to Everton over the last few years as I have a member of the family working for the club in a reasonably high position. Obviously I'm not going to divulge the name on here as I don't want any trouble for this person. I'm sure you understand that.

Combine with what I hear on a almost daily basis on this very forum I form my own opinions on the subject.

As for the finance, I'm basing this purely on the fact it would be cheaper. It's going to cost millions before a digger is on site at BMD whereas at another location it wouldnt be.


My final opinion on this matter is I'd rather stay at Goodison Park and redevelop that than move anywhere. We have been told that is impossible however I do not believe it is as impossible as they say. For this I have no evidence other than what I wish.

You say it would be easier to get finance for Stonebridge than Bramley Moor on the basis it would be cheaper ? That is total nonesense.

And no matter who you say you know , you still havent given the facts.
So please enlighten us.

 

[hirons11]

To answe a few of these type questions I've got, I wonder if we have bitten off more tha we can chew when it comes to BMD.

CLEARLY it's a massively ambitious project. It going to be more difficult and expensive than any normal build as firstly...we'll... It's a dock. So even before preparitory works can be made the whole thing needs to be sealed off, emptied and built up again. That's before they even start on building the stadium. Then there's design issues with it being so close to the water and on reclaimed land. It couldn't just be the same as any other stadium, it would need to be reinforced. Then there's the actual design on the surrounding area, the road, restructuring etc.

Now it's a fact that we have struggled to get finance for it. It's been mentioned on here several times. The council money is also by no means certain.

So that's what I mean about stone bridge cross. It would be far far cheaper to build an even bigger stadia there than BMD because there aren't even half of the issues there that we face with the dock. As a result it would have been easier to get fiances for it and I think if we had chosen that location TWO YEARS AGO we would have seen progress on it by now.

So that's what I mean. Bitten off more than we could chew. It's hugely ambitious BMD and I think any club would struggle with the implications of it, or indeed any developer which is why it's lain untouched for so long.


Also a message to certain posters, Brisan 123 in particular. these are MY OPINIONS on the matter. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM but you DO NOT NEED TO INSULT ME EITHER.

NSNO mate - time we started living up to this.

 

[radiostar]

You say it would be easier to get finance for Stonebridge than Bramley Moor on the basis it would be cheaper ? That is total nonesense.

And no matter who you say you know , you still havent given the facts.
So please enlighten us.

Two years down the line blulouie and there's no finance. Nothing in place. The club has tried many avenues of funding in the private sector. Sponsorship, naming rights, investment including having offices at the new ground and a gym, coffeebar and outlets for businesses.

As yet there's only been a fleeting interest. The price is putting off plenty. Now that's what I've been told.

Meanwhile the likes of Swansea, Sunderland, spurs have all attracted funding for their grounds. Of course I believe Everton Football a club would be able to attract that level. We are bigger than those clubs. The city we are in is better.

 

[degsy]

I very much doubt that we’ll end up with a capacity smaller than 60,000. We need to be competing with the likes of Spurs and the RS in terms of match day revenue.

What ever the new stadium IS about it's NOT exclusively about match day revenue. Sky money significantly dwarfs that.

Not many would argue we dont need a new ground
Not many would argue that Moshiri is doing it out of the goodness of his royal blue heart
We're getting a new ground because Moshiri...and others...will make money on it.

Where we need to compete with Spurs and the rs AND others is results...wins and hopefully trophies
THIS
Will lead to increased exposure and marketing returns and CL money

Oh and Moshiri can sell on a cash cow for big profits.

The Minority Report I; It'll never happen.
The Minority Report II; We could have a team like Sunderland but still be a saleable 'Sleeping Giant' but with the new ground