Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%

  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%

  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%

  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%
  • Total voters
    956
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Joey66 said:
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£2.80p comes in a brown envelope!
correction -
our price
£0.99p
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Would rather have proper toilet paper
 

Charles Hawtrey said:
perhaps even a mod - who knows.....

Sorry this is just untrue. its been well documented that the 'agreement in principle' was in place but the agreement was finalised and announced the next day.
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Seriously? Clutching a bit aren't you.

He wouldn't be at Goodison sat next to Farhad for the game if it wasn't a done deal.
 
Charles Hawtrey said:
perhaps even a mod - who knows.....

Sorry this is just untrue. its been well documented that the 'agreement in principle' was in place but the agreement was finalised and announced the next day.
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I don't know why this always causes so much disagreement.
Even if Sam wasn't officially appointed before the West Ham game there is no doubt that his presence in the crowd will have affected the players and they will have upped their performances to impress him, as they did for the next few games when we picked up the points to move us well away from relegation.

Before his arrival when Koeman and Dave Unsworth were in charge I couldn't see where a goal was coming from never mind a win.

But, the real debate is not about what did or didn't happen in a desperately disappointing season but what will happen when it finishes, over the transfer window and into next season.

The question we should be discussing is what really are the ambitions for Everton FC going forward and that centres around the manager.

Our ambition , for me, is all about who will replace Sam , now or next season.
I will support whoever is appointed, as I always do, but , for once I would like an appointment that has the world of football looking at us and saying that is a seriously good appointment. That will answer the media when they question why Sam was removed.
If , for instance , we appoint Silva, an argument can certainly be made that we could be back next December again trying to appoint Sam or somebody like him to get us out of trouble.
I would like a manager with a history of winning silverware in one of the better leagues.
 

I actually said that the knives would be out for Koeman at the start of the season because I felt our end of last season form was poor and he looked disinterested. I was laughed at, but he was gone by October.
 
Kev The Rat said:
I actually said that the knives would be out for Koeman at the start of the season because I felt our end of last season form was poor and he looked disinterested. I was laughed at, but he was gone by October.
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frustrating that was with Koeman, he really really looked disinterested, massively. I can only gather he was sold a pup by moshiri.

to be fair, weve all been sold a pup with Moshiri up to this point.
 

Nymzee said:
I never made it out football operates like the normal business world you ass clown.

I'm merely stating he got asked to save us, he did, not he's constantly asked whether he's getting binned or not so I'm not surprised he's getting a bit narky in a presser.

Pretty simple.
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Oooh, ass clown. That's me told, Gore Vidal.
 
blueblue said:
I don't know why this always causes so much disagreement.
Even if Sam wasn't officially appointed before the West Ham game there is no doubt that his presence in the crowd will have affected the players and they will have upped their performances to impress him, as they did for the next few games when we picked up the points to move us well away from relegation.

Before his arrival when Koeman and Dave Unsworth were in charge I couldn't see where a goal was coming from never mind a win.

But, the real debate is not about what did or didn't happen in a desperately disappointing season but what will happen when it finishes, over the transfer window and into next season.

The question we should be discussing is what really are the ambitions for Everton FC going forward and that centres around the manager.

Our ambition , for me, is all about who will replace Sam , now or next season.
I will support whoever is appointed, as I always do, but , for once I would like an appointment that has the world of football looking at us and saying that is a seriously good appointment. That will answer the media when they question why Sam was removed.
If , for instance , we appoint Silva, an argument can certainly be made that we could be back next December again trying to appoint Sam or somebody like him to get us out of trouble.
I would like a manager with a history of winning silverware in one of the better leagues.
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We Beat West Ham because Wayne hates Moyes and was absolutely fantastic in that game and wanted to stick it to Moyes.... nowt to do with Sam
 
Nymzee said:
But his deal was sorted before the West Ham game when we weren't 13th and if we'd have lost that would have been near the relegation places.

Why you being so Joey today.
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Charles Hawtrey said:
perhaps even a mod - who knows.....

Sorry this is just untrue. its been well documented that the 'agreement in principle' was in place but the agreement was finalised and announced the next day.
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Nymzee said:
Seriously? Clutching a bit aren't you.

He wouldn't be at Goodison sat next to Farhad for the game if it wasn't a done deal.
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Doesn't make any difference how long negotiations went on for or if agreements were made in principal. Allardyce wasn't officially appointed as the Everton Manager until the day after the West Ham as shown in the quoted post below from a few weeks back. We were 13th in the table when he was appointed and he had absolutely nothing to do with the West Ham game other than saying a quick hello to the team and spectating the game next to Kenwright and Moshiri.

Lob said:
That is not a fact at all and is incorrect. Allardyce wasn't appointed until the day after the West Ham game. On the 29th November (the day of the game), Everton announced that he would be at finch farm to finalize terms and that David Unsworth would be in charge of the West Ham game - http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/11/29/club-statement

Allardyce attended the game, said a quick hello to the team before kick off and then watched the game sat next to Kenright and Moshiri in the exec area. He had no input in the game at all, there is nothing to dispute about it. It would be ridiculous to suggest that saying hello to the team for 5 minutes before a match constitutes to having an input on it. He has very obviously been stealing credit for that game because we won it and because he is that sort of person i.e an ignoble scumbag. If we had lost, he would be having nothing to do with it.

Everton officially announced the appointment the day after the West Ham game on Twitter -

And subsequently posted his interview on the main website - http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/11/30/allardyce-everton-ambition-attracted-me
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