when i score we riot
Player Valuation: £40m
Not even on the bench today, probably been sent to a meditation retreat to find his power animal
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jonnyboy316
Player Valuation: £35m
Agree they need are full support on the pitch but on this forum we should be able to voice our personal opinions without being painted as being negative
it's vastly superior to klassens, who retains his intellect for hiding from the ball and little else
welshtoffee
Player Valuation: £30m
Will end up back at Ajax
Yeah that is fine but in reality a section of our fans like to moan and groan more with certain players.
AjaxAmsterdam01
Player Valuation: £25k
With Koeman gone, yeah it most likely won't become easier for Davy. It might be worth a try to play him as holding midfielder, which is in my opinion (and in the late Johan Cruijff's) his strongest position. Moving him higher up the pitch only has one reason, namely to have him sneak into the opponent's box and seizing opportunities. However, if he can't do that successfully, you are stuck with a player that is mediocre at Eredivisie-level at best in all other facets for an offensive midfielder. He isn't creative or technical, lacks an individual action, isn't impressive in the air etc.
As a more defensively oriented midfielder, Davy could focus more on keeping the team together and disciplined, recovering the ball and handing the thing over to players that like to have the ball and to direct play. I still believe he could be decent in such a role, although it already might be effectively over for him. Back to Ajax? I wouldnt mind, but I reckon he would move to a quality yet slightly slower league like the Bundesliga and come back to Amsterdam when he is 30 or so. To anyone, no, he looks 30 right now but he is actually 24
Kever10
Player Valuation: £25m
Of all the signings Koeman made, Klaassen is the one I feel for most. He was captain of the EL finalists, with a burgeoning reputation, he has moved up to a superior league to test himself, and felt like Everton were a good fit, which I admire, because he could've Sat on what he had, and continued to be an idol to many.
He was one of our earlier signings, and at that point, you could argue he had an out of favour Barkley for competition at the time, only for us to then sign Sandro, then Rooney, then Sigurdsson and just to be sure, Vlasic, all 4 of whom, could be argued, fill a similar role in the team to that which Koeman clearly intended Klaassen to play.
Not only did the signings we made not make sense in light of signing him, but then we proceed to set up negatively and play some of the dullest, slowest, 1 paced pedestrian football we have seen in a long while. Make no mistake, we may not have an abundance of pace in the team, but the system, formation and tactics, were what made us so slow, not the individuals. Even against part time European opposition, we were setting up with 5 at the back, and 3 or 4 games into the season had already see us play with 4 different right backs, including midfielder Tom Davies and centre Forward Calvert Lewin.
Now Klaassen hasn't came in and set the world alight as yet, but comparatively to Sigurdsson, who has the benefit of already "knowing the league" (whatever that means), he has had very little time in the side, certainly nothing of a consistent basis. And for the limited time he has had, 1 clumsy challenge in the Limassol game aside, he hasnt let anyone down. For the record, that challenge has taken far more criticism than it deserved - I mean, if you are gonna concede a goal from a free kick taken from that area of the pitch, with that amount of time on the clock, then you have far bigger defensive problems than anything Klaassen has been responsible for.
I would also argue his last gasp challenge at the end of the City game tracking his man and preventing a guilt edge chance to lose the game, shows he has his merits defensively.
In Klaassen, I see a neat and tidy one touch footballer, a player with a brain, who can pick out a pass and keep things ticking along, something of rarity in this current side. It seems everyone is required to take 3 touches minimum before laying it back to the player who gave it to them in the 1st place. I would argue that Klassen is 2nd only to Rooney in his intelligence, and he has shown a knack of seemingly being involved in goals when he has been on the pitch.
I think it's too early to judge Klaassen, simply because he has not been given the type of chances other players have been afforded while producing very little. I said to my brother on Sunday, that from what I have seen of him so far, I could see him fitting seemlessly in that Arsenal side with their fluidity, movement off the ball and decisive one touch passing. Unfortunately, we have been none of those things, and anytime we've been close to being that, Klaassen has been on the pitch.
One final point, and it relates again to our poor setup, formation, strategy, whatever you want to call it, and once again relates to Arsenal. At the end of that game, Arsenal had removed Lacazette, and with Giroud on the bench, they had Sanchez, Ozil, Ramsey and Wilshere all on the field at the same time, zipping the ball about, cutting us open at will. And it made me think. All this talk of too many number 10s, the negativity surrounding it. It's not actually the fact that we have 4 number 10s that is the issue. It's the fact that we did not have a plan as to how they would exist together in a team, how the team would perform to get the best out of what we had. It was all guess work, no strategy.
Our problems have been tactical all along, stubborn and incomprehensible, and the confidence has been sapped out of the players and the team as a result. Football is very much a confidence game, and for me, Koeman never looked like he was capable of building confidence once it was lost. Hopefully, the one thing Unsworth will be able to bring that he has shown in the u23s, is the ability to instill belief and unity back in the squad, give them a sense of purpose. And maybe then we will start to see the real Sigurdsson, the real Sandro, and hopefully, the real Klaassen.
He was one of our earlier signings, and at that point, you could argue he had an out of favour Barkley for competition at the time, only for us to then sign Sandro, then Rooney, then Sigurdsson and just to be sure, Vlasic, all 4 of whom, could be argued, fill a similar role in the team to that which Koeman clearly intended Klaassen to play.
Not only did the signings we made not make sense in light of signing him, but then we proceed to set up negatively and play some of the dullest, slowest, 1 paced pedestrian football we have seen in a long while. Make no mistake, we may not have an abundance of pace in the team, but the system, formation and tactics, were what made us so slow, not the individuals. Even against part time European opposition, we were setting up with 5 at the back, and 3 or 4 games into the season had already see us play with 4 different right backs, including midfielder Tom Davies and centre Forward Calvert Lewin.
Now Klaassen hasn't came in and set the world alight as yet, but comparatively to Sigurdsson, who has the benefit of already "knowing the league" (whatever that means), he has had very little time in the side, certainly nothing of a consistent basis. And for the limited time he has had, 1 clumsy challenge in the Limassol game aside, he hasnt let anyone down. For the record, that challenge has taken far more criticism than it deserved - I mean, if you are gonna concede a goal from a free kick taken from that area of the pitch, with that amount of time on the clock, then you have far bigger defensive problems than anything Klaassen has been responsible for.
I would also argue his last gasp challenge at the end of the City game tracking his man and preventing a guilt edge chance to lose the game, shows he has his merits defensively.
In Klaassen, I see a neat and tidy one touch footballer, a player with a brain, who can pick out a pass and keep things ticking along, something of rarity in this current side. It seems everyone is required to take 3 touches minimum before laying it back to the player who gave it to them in the 1st place. I would argue that Klassen is 2nd only to Rooney in his intelligence, and he has shown a knack of seemingly being involved in goals when he has been on the pitch.
I think it's too early to judge Klaassen, simply because he has not been given the type of chances other players have been afforded while producing very little. I said to my brother on Sunday, that from what I have seen of him so far, I could see him fitting seemlessly in that Arsenal side with their fluidity, movement off the ball and decisive one touch passing. Unfortunately, we have been none of those things, and anytime we've been close to being that, Klaassen has been on the pitch.
One final point, and it relates again to our poor setup, formation, strategy, whatever you want to call it, and once again relates to Arsenal. At the end of that game, Arsenal had removed Lacazette, and with Giroud on the bench, they had Sanchez, Ozil, Ramsey and Wilshere all on the field at the same time, zipping the ball about, cutting us open at will. And it made me think. All this talk of too many number 10s, the negativity surrounding it. It's not actually the fact that we have 4 number 10s that is the issue. It's the fact that we did not have a plan as to how they would exist together in a team, how the team would perform to get the best out of what we had. It was all guess work, no strategy.
Our problems have been tactical all along, stubborn and incomprehensible, and the confidence has been sapped out of the players and the team as a result. Football is very much a confidence game, and for me, Koeman never looked like he was capable of building confidence once it was lost. Hopefully, the one thing Unsworth will be able to bring that he has shown in the u23s, is the ability to instill belief and unity back in the squad, give them a sense of purpose. And maybe then we will start to see the real Sigurdsson, the real Sandro, and hopefully, the real Klaassen.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Think we will start to see a better player soon, he cant be as bad as we have seen, lets face it many other players have looked and been rubbish, players that we know are much better, such as Siggy, we have only seen Klassen play in a farcical set up from Koeman, for me the slate is clean on this player, like it should be for all of them
royvernon39
Player Valuation: £15m
Not so sure Klaasen will get much of a chance to play. If Unsworth sticks with wide players and a high pressing game, then the lad is out.
He is competing with Rooney, Siggy, and maybe even Sandro and to date Klaasen has shown no ability to adapt quickly.
My own preference is to go with McCarthy, Gana and one midfield leader and two wide players up-front with calvert-Lewin at 9. There is no time for experimentation with a lad who needs time to adjust.
He is competing with Rooney, Siggy, and maybe even Sandro and to date Klaasen has shown no ability to adapt quickly.
My own preference is to go with McCarthy, Gana and one midfield leader and two wide players up-front with calvert-Lewin at 9. There is no time for experimentation with a lad who needs time to adjust.
Canuck Darryl
Player Valuation: £2.5m
We have too many midfielders! With all the choices the manager has for the position, any player underperforming will be on the sidelines, or in the stands. Klaassen has been almost invisible in a lot of the matches he's been in. He has to up his game, or he will end up as a very short entry in the Everton Encyclopedia. The answer to an obscure trivia question.
He's a symptom of where things seem to have gone wrong for us in the summer, as it doesn't appear as though he was signed with a particular role in the team in mind. Sigurdsson, and to a large extent Sandro, are similar in that it's just difficult to see how they fit into the team at the moment. Koeman obviously had the blame pinned on him, but as a club I'm not sure there's any cohesion in what we're doing.
Logically for instance, the U23s should play the same way as the senior team, and so Unsworth should have as many challenges fitting in the new signings as Koeman has done, yet that doesn't appear to be the case at all. It begs the question what exactly Walsh is doing, when both Koeman and Unsworth could seemingly buy players despite both wanting to play in a different way.
Logically for instance, the U23s should play the same way as the senior team, and so Unsworth should have as many challenges fitting in the new signings as Koeman has done, yet that doesn't appear to be the case at all. It begs the question what exactly Walsh is doing, when both Koeman and Unsworth could seemingly buy players despite both wanting to play in a different way.
harris78
Phil Nevs Pointy Finger
This all day long. Everton do not appear to have any kind of identity. I cannot look at the club and say i know exactly who we are or what we are trying to achieve. Ok as much as the Kenwright's years of ownership were horrendous, you always knew what we the club were and what the team's ethos and mentality were. All that has been lost and we have absolutely no direction at present. We are one big rudderless ship (akin to Williams playing CB every saturday)
tim cahill
Player Valuation: £50m
We were within Koeman in charge. Unsworth will sort us out.
mccole
Player Valuation: £35m
Is Klaassen a Unsworth type player?
If you look at the U23, he never had a floating 10 in the style of Davy but a out and out midfielder aka Davies, Dowell
So again I think he will be frozen out of the first couple of squads.
I hope he gets up to speed and proved a lot of people wrong
If you look at the U23, he never had a floating 10 in the style of Davy but a out and out midfielder aka Davies, Dowell
So again I think he will be frozen out of the first couple of squads.
I hope he gets up to speed and proved a lot of people wrong
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