Are we to blame

[chicoazul]

We should demand more from the club. We laugh at other clubs who protest against the board and managers yet moan that nothing changes at Everton. As soon as anyone does create a fuss they're called out as bad fans.

Anyone that holds a view that for some reason fans booing at Goodison is the reason for decades of under performance, Ross Barkley career woes, or Lukaku's transfer, is absolutely ridiculous.

Exhonerating yourself for toxic behaviour that impacts negatively on the team is the problem Im trying to debate here.

 

[Igrok]

I would blame davek...he didnt pelt Moshiri's car with eggs and tomatoes yet...

 

[chicoazul]

I would blame davek...he didnt pelt Moshiri's car with eggs and tomatoes yet...

@davek is a good example of an Evertonians prepared to tackle difficult subjects to create awareness. In many ways he is the best of us sir.

 

[Sir Alan]

Blue kippers motto was call yourself an Evertonian, it captured the mood of the fans at that time, I wonder what 2k17 kipper would have as its motto?

Call yourself a fan.

Whatever got them more freebies that gang of sellouts

 

[B17BLG]

R FANS THERE MONEY SO THEY R ENTITLED 2 THERE VIEW. NSNO LADS.

*DER

 

[chicoazul]

*DER

Thanks Gracey.

 

[B17BLG]

Thanks Gracey.

Don't worry ABAR it LID

 

[Furey1878]

An honest question: do you think that Liverpool fans create an environment/atmosphere which is more conducive to player performance, development and loyalty than Evertonians do?

They have a good atmos in the big games like we do. The difference being though ours is more genuine rallying the team/getting angry as opposed to their faux-european "look at me look at me" atmosphere.

In the supposed routine, should-be-winning games both grounds are equally dead.

 

[chicoazul]

They have a good atmos in the big games like we do. The difference being though ours is more genuine rallying the team/getting angry as opposed to their faux-european "look at me look at me" atmosphere.

In the supposed routine, should-be-winning games both grounds are equally dead.

Is their environment more supportive than Goodison Park? Say it.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

We have been brainwashed into accepting 'compete for top 4' as good enough. We need to rid ourselves of Koeman, the board and this mentality.

 

[chicoazul]

We have been brainwashed into accepting 'compete for top 4' as good enough. We need to rid ourselves of Koeman, the board and this mentality.

I’d say that resources are more important than fan mentality to win leagues mate.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

Is their environment more supportive than Goodison Park? Say it.

Most definitely. Our fans are far from perfect. Anything in terms of protest or discontent should be off the field. Booing your own players is toxic and I can't stand it

 

[Osamabindiesel]

I’d say that resources are more important than fan mentality to win leagues mate.

It's the club mentality. "Top 4 is winning the league" for our players. We need to aim higher. You aren't wrong about resources though.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

Yeah lets march against a bloke who has made our cub into one of the best community clubs in the world that we can rightly be proud of.

There is more to life than what happens solely on the pitch.

Should be ashamed of yourself.

Yea nevermind football, let's be the best at something else instead

 

[chicoazul]

It's the club mentality. "Top 4 is winning the league" for our players. We need to aim higher. You aren't wrong about resources though.

Fair points.