Ronald Koeman discussion

LouReedwalkonthewildside · October 20, 2017

billyblue80 said:
Looks like he hasn't shaved in weeks

Maybe he's been bin bagged by his missus, and is living under his desk!

kithnou · October 20, 2017

summerisle said:
Doesn't look like he's learned anything about playing in Europe. A truly terrible statistic.

Befitting of his average Managerial capabilities one could say.

Darth Toffeeman · October 20, 2017

tirion said:
me too mate, because it doesnt matter who we appoint, the football might get better but we wont ever challenge, we won't beat any of the top 6 away from home, whenever we threaten a cup run we will get beaten by the first decent team we come up against. all we really want to do is finish somewhere between 7th and 17th every season and produce a top quality player in any position and sell him for a huge profit.
qualifying for europe is completely pointless all that leads to is national humiliation on live tv due to the sheer ineptitude of our performances.
all of the above is pretty much symptomatic of Everton in the premier league era, the people at the very top of the club should take responsibility for that and I include Kenwright, Moshiri and Elstone.
Everton FC a pointless, rudderless organisation happy to merely exist with the premier league "elite".

This is true. Sad but true.
Nothing has changed.

Blueway · October 20, 2017

tirion said:
me too mate, because it doesnt matter who we appoint, the football might get better but we wont ever challenge, we won't beat any of the top 6 away from home, whenever we threaten a cup run we will get beaten by the first decent team we come up against. all we really want to do is finish somewhere between 7th and 17th every season and produce a top quality player in any position and sell him for a huge profit.
qualifying for europe is completely pointless all that leads to is national humiliation on live tv due to the sheer ineptitude of our performances.
all of the above is pretty much symptomatic of Everton in the premier league era, the people at the very top of the club should take responsibility for that and I include Kenwright, Moshiri and Elstone.
Everton FC a pointless, rudderless organisation happy to merely exist with the premier league "elite".

Maybe football is now ruined? Not just EFC, it’s anyone without a cash cow has no chance of competing anywhere, yes the odd thing may happen like Leicester but that’s not going to be the norm and look at them now?

billyblue80 · October 20, 2017

I hope he resigns he must know the writing is on the wall. It's not all on him I blame the board and Walsh to an extent too but he can't get a tune out of a good to decent set of players.

tirion · October 20, 2017

tim cahill said:
In Koeman's defence it's clear that he's trying every combination of players he can to get some kind form and confidence into the side.

He also made clear throughout August that we needed a CF and left sided defender. I think he's been proven right about that.

The damage was done in the summer. Some of our signings have been complete disasters but we don't know if that's his fault or Walsh's. We were all left disappointed with how the transfer window ended, we just didn't realise how bad things would get because of it.

That said, I think he'll be sacked by the end of the month, but I don't think it's all his fault. It'll mainly be down to the team needing a boost that a new manger can sometimes provide.

he is the manager, he should have taken control, he should have insisted on being involved in recruitment he clearly hasn't been, and he should have issued Kenwright,Moshiri, Walsh or whoever is in charge of transfers an ultimatum in August saying sign me a centre forward and a centre half or i am off

Blueway · October 20, 2017

tirion said:
he is the manager, he should have taken control, he should have insisted on being involved in recruitment he clearly hasn't been, and he should have issued Kenwright,Moshiri, Walsh or whoever is in charge of transfers an ultimatum in August saying sign me a centre forward and a centre half or i am off

I know it’s a big step in caliber, but I am sure mourhinio had a plan before the MU job..seems like we didn’t have one at all!

CrustySack · October 20, 2017

I'd put Unsworth in temporary charge until the end of the season. He would steady the ship.

orly · October 20, 2017

billyblue80 said:
I hope he resigns he must know the writing is on the wall. It's not all on him I blame the board and Walsh to an extent too but he can't get a tune out of a good to decent set of players.

I'd be stunned if he resigned. He's moved for big money, he's hardly about to turn down a payout.

everton2004 · October 20, 2017

He looks a mess, clearly feeling the pressure he is under. Couldn't tell if it was sunburn or signs of high blood pressure. All rather worrying this mess we find ourselves in.

blulouie · October 20, 2017

Blueway said:
I just see Man U under Van Gaal when I watch us TBH, it needs a change..

FA cup winners & Champions league....I'm up for that.

orly · October 20, 2017

LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
Arsenal, Chelsea, Leicester, Lyon, surely he doesn't see those games out.

Terrifying but you just don't see us winning any of those do you?

Cork Evertonian · October 20, 2017

Ronald Koeman won the Eredivisie three times as manager.Frank De Boer won it four times in a row.Even Steve McClaren won it!Goes to show that winning the Eredivisie means nothing in the wider scale of things.

Khalekan · October 20, 2017

orly said:
I'd be stunned if he resigned. He's moved for big money, he's hardly about to turn down a payout.

No way he is walking.

I think the best we can hope for is him and his boss come to some arrangement over the payout and he goes “by mutual agreement” with a reduced pay off but no sacking on his CV.

But it better be soon.