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If he flops in the next 4 games he gone!




You'd think so!

Let's hope that we somehow get 3 wins from Brighton, Lyon and Arsenal though.

Brighton and Lyon are must wins, and Arsenal is must not lose given it's at home.



Nah.

He only has to win at Brighton.

The next three games are expected losses in Moshiri speak.

If he survives Brighton, his next crunch game is @ Leicester ;)
 

When do we win away?RK is heading for the worst away record in our history!
Last January was are last win in the Prem!
I think?
The away record is a serious worry, at home Goodison isn't the fortress the media try to make out it is, "Tough place to go" whenever I hear someone say that I think to myself wait till you get here, easy place to go and away from home were a waste of time, major problem this
 
Nah.

He only has to win at Brighton.

The next three games are expected losses in Moshiri speak.

If he survives Brighton, his next crunch game is @ Leicester ;)

The whole thing is like a Case in Crisis Management book. Imagine you are RK, your sales plan has failed and has no prospect of success, the Board is nervous and speaking in public about their support for you, many of your consumers have lost faith in your product mix, What is your Immediate, Short-Term and Long Term Objectives.

Oh, I forgot...You have a Massive Contract.
 
The whole thing is like a Case in Crisis Management book. Imagine you are RK, your sales plan has failed and has no prospect of success, the Board is nervous and speaking in public about their support for you, many of your consumers have lost faith in your product mix, What is your Immediate, Short-Term and Long Term Objectives.

Oh, I forgot...You have a Massive Contract.
Immediate: mediate a meeting with top performers to identify the cause of the under performance.

Short term: with the help of aforementioned too performers, your management team and any mentors devise an action plan to remedy this. Get this authorised from those above, their commitment to it and any resources required and put into place. Benchmark progress as often as you can. Anyone who fails to commit must be moved aside or exited.

Long term: ensure the progress is sustainable so it is maintained. Review what were the failing factors from the very start that resulted in toxic under performance, put measures in place to safeguard from this again. Look to recruit talent from successful competitors to develop your next level of achievement. Source technological and process enhancements from competitors or industry innovators. Develop your product, service delivery, marketing reach so you’re innovating and not in crisis recovery. Review all area and of strategy and competence. SWOT analysis the living f out of all those below you to ascertain their comprehension of their business line and capability to move performance to a higher level.

Ask for a payrise as you turned it around. Do much brass.
 
Can someone older than me answer me a question please?

People talk about Kendall almost being sacked as we weren't winning games but was he, at least, doing what I can't see RK doing this season and that's looking like he's changing things around to find something that works and setting up a logical team?
 

Can someone older than me answer me a question please?

People talk about Kendall almost being sacked as we weren't winning games but was he, at least, doing what I can't see RK doing this season and that's looking like he's changing things around to find something that works and setting up a logical team?


Hard to say.

The season before, ‘82/83 we were showing great promise.

Sharp, Heath, Reid, Ratcliffe were established in the team with Sheedy and Richardson starting to emerge.....though Neville had been sent out on loan after the trauma of the Glenn Keeley earlier on in the season :(

The winter of ‘83/84 was dire, though.

I think we went almost the whole month of December without scoring a goal.....though we did win at OT with a Sheedy goal one gloomy day in the bleak midwinter so that is probably not quite true.

But we won a cup tie at Stoke early in the New Year, the famous game where Howard’s team talk consisted of opening the dressing room window and telling the players to listen to the travelling Blues singing (yours truly among them :)) and that gave us a lift.

We at least kept in both cups and obviously that kept interest in the season alive until Kevin Brock Day and the rest is history ;)

I think however the biggest difference between then and now is that everyone connected with the club, from the Chairman to the charlady, knew that we were Everton, believed in Everton and had absolutely no doubt Everton would rise again.

Now we appear to have an owner and a manager who don’t.

Simple as.

And that IMO is the reason a deep depression has settled over Evertonia since Moshiri’s ill judged remarks after Burnley.

As an aside.....I often think of an alternative universe and what might have happened if we had got beaten at Oxford that night and Howard was fired as a result.

The talk at the time, when people were speculating as now about a successor, was for a certain dour manager in a remote part of Scotland whom was making a name fir himself.

Howard prevailed however ;)

And another struggling north west team moved in for him about two years later.

He did quite well for them actually :dance:
 
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I fear a scenario where we get a few results, then are dismal, a few results, dismal, over and over. Hovering around 13th/14th place, in no real danger but achieving nothing. Sackability should be based on improvement on last season, not avoiding relegation. Unless there is substantial, instant improvement he should be gone by Remembrance Day.
Nah not then, don't want to trivialise those who do need remembering, I prefer not to remember him at all, so will go with Bommy Night and he can replace Guy Fawks on the Bonfire of his own vanities...what, you can't do that now? OK in effigy if we must, darn it, 'Kin health and safety gone mad nanny state.
 
Hard to say.

The season before, ‘82/83 we were showing great promise.

Sharp, Heath, Reid, Ratcliffe were established in the team with Sheedy and Richardson starting to emerge.....though Neville had been sent out on loan after the trauma of the Glenn Keeley earlier on in the season :(

The winter of ‘83/84 was dire, though.

I think we went almost the whole month of December without scoring a goal.....though we did win at OT with a Sheedy goal one gloomy day in the bleak midwinter so that is probably not quite true.

But we won a cup tie at Stoke early in the New Year, the famous game where Howard’s team talk consisted of opening the dressing room window and telling the players to listen to the travelling Blues singing (yours truly among them :)) and that gave us a lift.

We at least kept in both cups and obviously that kept interest in the season alive until Kevin Brock Day and the rest is history ;)

I think however the biggest difference between then and now is that everyone connected with the club, from the Chairman to the charlady, knew that we were Everton, believed in Everton and had absolutely no doubt Everton would rise again.

Now we appear to have an owner and a manager who don’t.

Simple as.

And that IMO is the reason a deep depression has settled over Evertonia since Moshiri’s ill judged remarks after Burnley.

As an aside.....I often think of an alternative universe and what might have happened if we had got beaten at Oxford that night and Howard was fired as a result.

The talk at the time, when people were speculating as now about a successor, was for a certain dour manager in a remote part of Scotland whom was making a name fir himself.

Howard prevailed however ;)

And another struggling north west team moved in for him about two years later.

He did quite well for them actually :dance:

Not forgetting Mike England sat in the Directors Box on Boxing Day...is he doing anything this week? either him or that grim reaper bloke from Old Trafford
 
Hard to say.

The season before, ‘82/83 we were showing great promise.

Sharp, Heath, Reid, Ratcliffe were established in the team with Sheedy and Richardson starting to emerge.....though Neville had been sent out on loan after the trauma of the Glenn Keeley earlier on in the season :(

The winter of ‘83/84 was dire, though.

I think we went almost the whole month of December without scoring a goal.....though we did win at OT with a Sheedy goal one gloomy day in the bleak midwinter so that is probably not quite true.

But we won a cup tie at Stoke early in the New Year, the famous game where Howard’s team talk consisted of opening the dressing room window and telling the players to listen to the travelling Blues singing (yours truly among them :)) and that gave us a lift.

We at least kept in both cups and obviously that kept interest in the season alive until Kevin Brock Day and the rest is history ;)

I think however the biggest difference between then and now is that everyone connected with the club, from the Chairman to the charlady, knew that we were Everton, believed in Everton and had absolutely no doubt Everton would rise again.

Now we appear to have an owner and a manager who don’t.

Simple as.

And that IMO is the reason a deep depression has settled over Evertonia since Moshiri’s ill judged remarks after Burnley.

As an aside.....I often think of an alternative universe and what might have happened if we had got beaten at Oxford that night and Howard was fired as a result.

The talk at the time, when people were speculating as now about a successor, was for a certain dour manager in a remote part of Scotland whom was making a name fir himself.

Howard prevailed however ;)

And another struggling north west team moved in for him about two years later.

He did quite well for them actually :dance:
Fair summary this. At least you could see what Kendall was trying to do, and the players were as frustrated as the fans. This current manager and a fair chunk of the players don't seem to have a plan or appear to be remotely bothered about finding one.
 
Fair summary this. At least you could see what Kendall was trying to do, and the players were as frustrated as the fans. This current manager and a fair chunk of the players don't seem to have a plan or appear to be remotely bothered about finding one.

The players appear to me to have reached the " Martinez situation ", they have no belief in his tactics, as they know that they're being set up as a team totally wrong.

As such they are beaten before they even step on the pitch.

Hence rumours of discontent.
 

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