Ronald Koeman discussion

[ijjysmith]

Let's be honest here, our rapid rise that period caught everybody by surprise.

How bad were we before then mate?

 

[tommytowne]

How bad were we before then mate?

Gates of 12000 kind of says it all.
Kendall saved from the bullet by Philip Carter, then that game against Oxford and the rest is history.

 

[4737carlin]

Gordon Strachan anyone? Going to be available soon

 

[Julius Geezer]

Gates of 12000 kind of says it all.
Kendall saved from the bullet by Philip Carter, then that game against Oxford and the rest is history.

I still think the Stoke away cup game , 3rd round , was the catalyst.
We had just been walloped 3-0 by bottom of the table Wolves then held 0-0 by Coventry.
The Stoke game was our last throw of the dice for the season (and probably Howard's ) 6,000 Everton and an amazing atmosphere.
A great day out and a taste of what was to come.

 

[Lowste]

Deffo mate. Koeman's problem now is that it looks like he's lost most of the fans.

Agree
the problem is he doesn't care, and that attitude just worsens the situation.
I have said before we can't become a sacking type club, and still believe that, if the man had any professional pride he would simply resign... he won't as he believes nothing is his fault.

 

[tommytowne]

I still think the Stoke away cup game , 3rd round , was the catalyst.
We had just been walloped 3-0 by bottom of the table Wolves then held 0-0 by Coventry.
The Stoke game was our last throw of the dice for the season (and probably Howard's ) 6,000 Everton and an amazing atmosphere.
A great day out and a taste of what was to come.

Anecdotes galore from that game. Kendall just opening the windows in the dressing room to let the players hear the Blues travelling support one that sticks in my mind.

 

[tommytowne]

The general consensus amongst those non - blues I talk to is that he knows his fate.
I honestly believe that a fortnight today about this time, we will hear he has been relieved of his duties.

 

[ijjysmith]

The general consensus amongst those non - blues I talk to is that he knows his fate.
I honestly believe that a fortnight today about this time, we will hear he has been relieved of his duties.

I’m not convinced mate. But only through us not sacking managers all that often.

If the form continues he has to go. That’s just the way it is.

 

[Ring master]

For me if he was going to be sacked,now and the last week was the right time,if in a few games time he has lost them etc,you might get the press saying again he has x amount of games to save his job,no one knows how many games he might have to save his job as its all guess work

 

[tommytowne]

I’m not convinced mate. But only through us not sacking managers all that often.

If the form continues he has to go. That’s just the way it is.

My elder lad often said that he reckoned we were too nice to our manager's given our lack of success. This gave potential future managers the feeling that if they joined Everton they would be given an easy ride if and when matters got sticky.

 

[tommytowne]

For me if he was going to be sacked,now and the last week was the right time,if in a few games time he has lost them etc,you might get the press saying again he has x amount of games to save his job,no one knows how many games he might have to save his job as its all guess work

Admittedly the Sunday red tops, but a couple of them stating he has until the end of this month to get things sorted or he's out.

 

[Gladystweet]

How bad were we before then mate?

Dark, dark days.

 

[ijjysmith]

My elder lad often said that he reckoned we were too nice to our manager's given our lack of success. This gave potential future managers the feeling that if they joined Everton they would be given an easy ride if and when matters got sticky.

Said a while back I’ll start to truly believe things have changed if we sack him.

A big club probably would have by now.

 

[allezlesbleus]

Anecdotes galore from that game. Kendall just opening the windows in the dressing room to let the players hear the Blues travelling support one that sticks in my mind.

As the story goes HK Opened the dressing room window and said "there's the teamtalk" or words to that effect.
It showed that despite every thing the fans were sticking by them and going to give it a go. It really was one of those moments where fans acting proactively influenced the outcome.
I was amazed to see the turnout. I went expecting it to be very few and like a morgue.

 

[Gladystweet]

Said a while back I’ll start to truly believe things have changed if we sack him.

A big club probably would have by now.

A bit of an understatement, but the next two league games are crucial. I'm not counting Lyon, I honestly believe we've written that off I also believe those high up must be weighing their options, if the worst comes to the worst in those two games.