Ronald Koeman discussion

[Elton John]

Lots of managers would be interested in managing us for 6 million a year. I just know our board won't pay another 10 million to sack a manager, so we're stuck with him. We'll be in the bottom three by Christmas. Can we hope he'll jump ship to another job? We got him in based on his name, not his capabilities as a manager, perhaps another club will be similarly foolish and he'll fancy going elsewhere. What a dream

 

[Deckard2049]

Take it you've never had to manage a challenging situation or manage an organisation through adversity?

Is it not obvious that almost a total new team, lack of new striker (out of Koeman's control) plus the fixture list we were given was always going to be extremely challenging

Need to support the team while they ride it out

I don't understand why yourself and some other blues completely absolve Koeman for the transfer window, specifically us not signing a striker. We are not Manchester City, nor are we PSG. We don't have infinite resources, we have finite resources. Koeman has to work with a budget- a budget better than any other Everton manager in my lifetime has had. Perhaps he should have replaced Lukaku and made that his priority before spunking nearly £70 million on number 10's leaving us scrambling around on deadline day like amateurs.

 

[Mikeonlythebestwilldo]

He deserved to be sacked for his comments after the match alone today. Completely deluded!

Why wat did he chat rubbish about mozza laa ?????

 

[toffeejack]

It's a complete and utter mess. Baines, Williams, Martina, Calvert Lewin, Niasse, Vlasic... You really rate all of these players as they are right now to be starting games for us?

I wouldn't have any of them in my starting XI nor actually on the bench, bar Baines. But they're the better performers atm so deserve to be playing.

 

[Abraders]

Yes but do they do the basics right? Like Williams passing the ball back to strikers, like our 2 DMs only playing back and sideways.

To be crystal clear, I am not absolving Koeman of any blame. He has reasons to be criticised but lets just take a minute and acknowledge how some of our professional/expensive players are playing utter garbage football. Lets alsi acknowledge Walsh and the board for not getting the striker in nor the defender in - which Koeman had been crying for in August.

We sign a striker if we don't sign Gilfi. That much is very clear with the whole Barkley/phantom striker bid debacle.

The players are a bunch of losers and stink, that much is clear. I mean, we've seen it time and time again.

But ok, Koeman doesn't know the tactics to utilise his players nor the best formation for them. He also hates wingers and for someone who played for barcelona, hates football in general.

None of this is a good mix. I believe Koeman is at a point of no return with his squad right now. They have 0 confidence in him and neither do the fans.

 

[random]

Err we haven't played Brighton yet, unless you can see the future

I think I can make an educated guess as to what will happen

 

[kenada_blue]

If we can spend £45mill on Siggurdson, I'm sure we can spend a lot on a new gaffer

 

[Darren Higgs]

The sour grapes from people over Moyes is rotten. He done a brilliant job here on a shoestring budget. A lot of other managers would have had us relegated.

I've been quite disappointed to see how he ended up being shafted at United, and the shattered confidence afterwards.

One thing is for sure though if he had the budget Koeman just had we would be in an entirely different situation now. The man was meticulous with the level of planning he clearly put in to each signing. Then afterwards he always came up with a plan to maximise our very limited talents.

I always thought the lack of money for moyes did him a favour as we kept a consistent team so everyone knew there jobs. It made us hard to beat and players improved as the could refine the role. Had he been given money he may well have cocked it up.

 

[Mikeonlythebestwilldo]

If we can spend £45mill on Siggurdson, I'm sure we can spend a lot on a new gaffer

Unless he wants a half empty shining new stadium sitting there with teams in league 1 playing there

 

[ijjysmith]

I'm shock at your change of opinion mate.

Nah tried to support him and rubbish wins I can deal with. Playing rubbish and not winning, nah.

 

[Hickson9]

He just said, to all of us:

"If you don't like it, go home."

That isn't acceptable from our manager. That is it for me. Sack him.

 

[hktoffee]

nothing, haven't since 96. they're both failures but Martinez at least had some high points during his tenure

But he got 3 seasons.

 

[mr kearns]

The sour grapes from people over Moyes is rotten. He done a brilliant job here on a shoestring budget. A lot of other managers would have had us relegated.

I've been quite disappointed to see how he ended up being shafted at United, and the shattered confidence afterwards.

One thing is for sure though if he had the budget Koeman just had we would be in an entirely different situation now. The man was meticulous with the level of planning he clearly put in to each signing. Then afterwards he always came up with a plan to maximise our very limited talents.

Thing is, the new Moyes is the one whose confidence has already been shattered. He wouldn't be the same manager. But agreed, it's immensely disappointing to see him as the manager he is now. I feel overall very fond towards him despite the Baines/Fellaini debacle.

I remember at the beginning of this decade, there was a distinct sense that we would be that much better with just a bit more money to spend.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

What is it with Everton managers trying to get us relegated in their second seasons?

 

[faddy the blue]

In my opinion we haven't got the capacity to spend any more money on new players. So we'd have to go with what we've got. Thats my concern for any new manager coming in.

It is the same for me. And he's not stubborn like Bonny or Moyes. He does change his team if its not working out. He does make substitutions early. He has been badly let down by some of the players. No single manager gets the team selection right 100% of the time. But the players still do basics right. We aren't.