Summer Transfer Window 2017

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Wow Liverpool are really making something out of the Coutinho money. Seems they're about to sign Lemar from Monaco. Though what they need is a CB not all those attacking players.
 

Moomin said:
I see Liverpool have been mentioned a few times and a few blues are laughing them off.

It's hard to admit but they have been very impressive and they will score plenty of goals, with or without Coutinho.

We are miles behind them offensively.
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Thankfully our defence is miles ahead with those youngsters Jags, Williams and Baines....(blatant sarcasm)
 
Tubey said:
It'd be a bad thing because we are clearly in need of players in certain areas and we aren't spending to bring them in. Net spend indicates ambition - you can't be ambitious by constantly buying to sell and then selling to buy. Ambition means actual investment.

Last summer was poor, but I was willing to excuse it because Walsh was new in and Moshiri perhaps wanted to see the lie of the land and give time for a proper team to bring players in. However, if we leave this window having gutted our attack and not spent actual money to improve us, then that confirms Moshiri as something for me, and that is an upper class Kenwright - a sell to buy merchant with the ability to use an overdraft - and that would be entirely justified, given even counter-arguments like "oh but the stadium" are just plans on paper at this point.
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I would agree to an extent if I thought we were selling players to buy, but we are selling players who have either decided they don't want to be here and/or are not deemed good enough. So for instance, if Lukaku and Barkley decided to commit their future to Everton, did not want to leave, but were sold so we could buy cheaper players and make a profit. The "Robbing Peter to pay Paul" method of negative net spending, like we've done in the past, with Jeffers, Rooney, even Lineker. But we all know that this is not the case here.

Lanolin said:
Only if the 'maybes' happen exactly as you say, which currently seems unlikely.

I would be genuinely surprised if we spend £45m on the positions you mention. At the moment it seems more likely that it'll be loans or stop gaps rather than big fees.

There's also the 'maybes' you've ignored, like McCarthy/niasse/Lennon/mirallas/Robles leaving.

I have no interest in our net spend, simply pointing out that's a very skewed way of looking at it.
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Well, if the maybes don't happen as I say, we could very well end up with an unfit, unmotivated, and unwanted Ross Barkley still here as well, and still a positive net spend of £40m (not including wages).

The additional players you have mentioned may very well be moved on as well, but there may well be other players we bring in, whether that be last minute deals for players under the radar, additional players for the U23 squad, etc. The Vlasic thing only cropped up this week and no one had an inkling about that, despite us playing his team twice this month.

But you agreed with the initial point anyway, so I was just answering the point about my skewed way of looking at it.

In short, we don't know until all the deals are done and the window is closed. Until then, the spend, be it negative or positive, is meaningless. The true reflection is the state of the squad before and after.

And if we make a profit AND improve, to me, that is a positive, and not in any way a reflection of ambition. It's just common sense.
 
Anyone jealous of the RS needs a smack in the arm. They're just going all Dortmund again, full of attacking players. They don't have a single proper DM in their squad now Lucas has left and their defence sucks. They have as much to envy as they have of us.
 


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