Farhad Moshiri

[Brisan123]

Agreed. His time was up.

Luckily our board are not stupid (even though we love to pretend they are) and the right decision was made.

I don't think it was a board decision , I reckon it was down to Mosh that he was sacked
If Nilly had his way Bobby would still be here

 

[HongKongToffee]

Werll i don't see a huge fee asset to be sold next summer that can go to spending players.

So that should be when Moshiri should be judged.

Be interesting to see what the net spend will be then.

 

[Nymzee]

Do we have the same aims as Brighton? I literally just wrote in my post that net spend is not the be all and end all when attempting to judge progress. Brighton have just been promoted with a team made up of championship level players and no in demand assets. They have signed one player with a value of over £10 million. So your comparison is completely disingenuous and worthless. It isn't about whether Brighton will be successful when you compare them to us, as we will have completely different aims and goals, hence another reason why I stated that net spend is not the be all and end all. I'm almost certain Brighton's aim is to finish 17th. That would be a good season from them. Would you say we've had a successful season if we finish 17th? The question you need to ask is will we be successful and does our transfer business reflect our aims for the current season. If our aim is to finish 7th, then I guess we've done ok. We were about 15 points ahead of 8th anyway last year, so it shouldn't be a big ask.

Your premise was "viable indicator of progress" when it just always isn't. If it was every single time then sure we could be annoyed about our net spend but it isn't sooooo... it is irrelevant.

 

[GBH73]

Is it ok to seek reality?

Poor team performances
Shambolic and imbalanced transfer window
Best player just left
Second best player almost gone
Former teen hero back as a washed up old man
Manager spending £100M and complaining he's had nothing
Club getting held to ransom trying to secure a player for £50M who will have no sell on value
Stadium issue kicked into the long grass...again

How do you wonder at people not being upbeat?

We selling Seamus are we?

 

[Brisan123]

Werll i don't see a huge fee asset to be sold next summer that can go to spending players.

So that should be when Moshiri should be judged.

Be interesting to see what the net spend will be then.

Keane Sandro and Klassen will skyrocket in Value.
However we will keep all 3 if Ronko is still here.
I can see Sandro ending up back in Spain at some point but it will be a big transfer fee

 

[Bally8]

Werll i don't see a huge fee asset to be sold next summer that can go to spending players.

So that should be when Moshiri should be judged.

Be interesting to see what the net spend will be then.

It will be interesting.

 

[nsno-chris]

The fact that we all know that's tongue in cheek is damning.

18 months here and we're 'doing a Kenwright'. And most people have twigged it now.

Don't hate the facts dave, embrace them. Every word is true

 

[banno]

We all know we aren't PSG or City and I personally don't care about net spend but as it stands for us to get what we need we need to increase our net spend from zero.

The worry imo is the fact we don't seem to be able to sell without selling our best players.

What do we do next season?

We have an uphill battle to try and get CL football. Until we can achieve that all our players are at high risk to be poached. Even if we qualify our players will be even more in the shop window but it could also help us get top players. In other words there are a lot of clubs more attractive than us and losing our best players will be ongoing until we are attractive enough ourselves. Its not that the club are getting rid of the best players it's our best players wanting to go. That is the struggle we are up against.

 

[Deckard2049]

Your premise was "viable indicator of progress" when it just always isn't. If it was every single time then sure we could be annoyed about our net spend but it isn't sooooo... it is irrelevant.

It is a viable indicator of progress...if your aims are actually above and beyond finishing as the "best of the rest". If you want to finish mid table with a net spend of plus 10, then thats your prerogative. It is a fact that the majority of teams with the highest net spends have dominated this league for decades, going back to when Blackburn Rovers bought the league. I even gave examples where this wasn't the case, i:e Leicester. An example, perhaps the greatest accomplishment by any team ever, does not negate the net spend argument in the face of overwhelming data. According to you because net spend doesn't always 100% dictate a teams success means it's totally irrelevant, despite 90% of the time correlation between high net spend and success is present? The teams who spend the most on transfer and wages finish at the top. Is that irrelevant? Or is it a fact?

I agree that net spend is not the only way to gauge how a team is progressing, but it is a factor. When you have the 7th best squad with the 7th best manager, you need to make large improvements if you want to climb the table by investing in the team. 11th to 7th is fine but nothing special when you look at the dross in this league. 7th to 6th? 7th to 4th? That's another task entirely and if you think we've done enough so far you're mistaken. And the net spend reflects that. We've addressed weaknesses and created others. And we're still the 7th best team in the league. Thats what happens when you sell your best player.

 

[Blackwell Livermore]

It's not my fault people cant understand what I am saying!

Actually it probably is, but I am just looking at the bigger picture! He was a blip in our progression, that's all.

He was a bad blip he was that one.

 

[MikeH72]

We did not go back ten years! Why do people keep saying stupid stuff like this?

The position we were in before and after he was at the club are exactly the same. Best of the rest. Where does the ten year part come into it?

There are plenty of reasons to have a go at Martinez so why throw in a weird reference like that? Other than a couple of dull seasons for the fans him being here really has changed nothing.

Hahahahaha wow what, how exactly were we best of the rest when he left us?

 

[Lanolin]

Hahahahaha wow what, how exactly were we best of the rest when he left us?

I think the point is that it's taken us 1 year to get back to where we were, not 10.

 

[MikeH72]

I think the point is that it's taken us 1 year to get back to where we were, not 10.

Ah right

 

[Black Belt Jones]

He left a team of utter dross behind him with one or 2 exceptions
Apart from Barry and Rom none of his signings were good enough
He was given a well drilled team that could defend and left benind a mis coached mess

Signed the entire spine of Wigan Athletic [Robles, Alcaraz, McCarthy, Kone] and gave them the Royal Blue Jersey to wear. Actually let them play football at Goodison park - it was like a Greek tragedy unfolding before our eyes, a tearjerker. Baines and Jagielka were the heroes of the piece, eventually standing up to the fork-tongued charlatan and casting him asunder.

 

[Brisan123]

Signed the entire spine of Wigan Athletic [Robles, Alcaraz, McCarthy, Kone] and gave them the Royal Blue Jersey to wear. Actually let them play football at Goodison park - it was like a Greek tragedy unfolding before our eyes, a tearjerker. Baines and Jagielka were the heroes of the piece, eventually standing up to the fork-tongued charlatan and casting him asunder.

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