New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium


roydo said:
As the boss said, so many questions.

Great Stadium. Sound.
We MIGHT own it in 40 years.
Not much EFC/Moshiri being committed = more for the team. Sound.
ASSUME naming rights, matchday income etc etc is ours.

Why on earth did some hound Esk off here!
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Not having a go at him or saying that he deserved some of the stick he got but I think it was because of the whole Witsel/Mata stuff
 
Jack1882 said:
Sounds really dodgy to me. Loans with a local council as guarantor and if the worst happens it's Everton's long term future at stake?

Why isn't Moshiri the guarentor on the loans, does he not have the money or he'd rather Everton take the risk?
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FIFA fair play knackered any chance of us spending what we would like to on a stadium. We currently have weak sponsor deals that tie our hands so I am sure our owners will have sorted out the best way to make this viable whilst growing on the pitch too.

I expected us to look for a deal that would maximise the clubs ability to compete at the top end of the league whilst we rectify the 20 years + of mismanagement which has seen us lose considerable ground off the pitch with our peers.

The loan will be insignificant if we can start to rub shoulders with the likes of Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, which is where a club with Everton stature belongs.
 

Just a couple of questions for those brighter than me on this.

1) We pay the council 4.4 million over 40 years. So around 170 million? Presumably this is the interest in order to guarantee the loan (and have preferential rates etc).

2) At around a 4% rate, 300 million paid back over 40 years would cost us about 15 million a year. Will the capital repayment e around 10 million a year if the interest is 4.4 (in line with how a mortgage from a bank might be?)

3) Who will we be repaying the capital too? Who is the loan too? Private funders? Moshiri? Usmanov? Usmanov company?

4) Will we have to pay an annual fee to reduce the capital owed? Is it more flexible than that and we can pay more or less over time? If we just repay the interest, after 40 years we will surely still owe the 300 million on the ground?

5) How will we fund our side of it? I saw Spurs were looking to attract 400 million pounds in naming rights. That seems very high, probably a bit out of our reach currently. But could we raise 200 million for a long term ground name sponsor? Player trading to help fund paying off the capital?

I'm not sure we'll have any concrete answers to the above. I appreciate some of the points are a bit difficult to answer immediately. If people can answer what they can I'd really appreciate that.
 
Darth Toffeeman said:
FIFA fair play knackered any chance of us spending what we would like to on a stadium. We currently have weak sponsor deals that tie our hands so I am sure our owners will have sorted out the best way to make this viable whilst growing on the pitch too.

I expected us to look for a deal that would maximise the clubs ability to compete at the top end of the league whilst we rectify the 20 years + of mismanagement which has seen us lose considerable ground off the pitch with our peers.

The loan will be insignificant if we can start to rub shoulders with the likes of Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, which is where a club with Everton stature belongs.
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Does FFP cover infrastructure spend? I thought you could spend what you liked on infrastructure, just not player spending?
 
bazzer25 said:
Well Morshiri knows what he's doing that's why he's the successful business man.
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He's never done anything like this before.

His priorities here on the stadium put simply appear to be: keep his hands out of his pocket, let others step forward and stand behind the financial package required on whatever terms necessary for them to do that, get it built, then get out of the club with a massive profit upon sale of shares.
 
Darth Toffeeman said:
FIFA fair play knackered any chance of us spending what we would like to on a stadium. We currently have weak sponsor deals that tie our hands so I am sure our owners will have sorted out the best way to make this viable whilst growing on the pitch too.

I expected us to look for a deal that would maximise the clubs ability to compete at the top end of the league whilst we rectify the 20 years + of mismanagement which has seen us lose considerable ground off the pitch with our peers.

The loan will be insignificant if we can start to rub shoulders with the likes of Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, which is where a club with Everton stature belongs.
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Fifa fair play excludes all infrastructure costs such as stadiums from calculations. It's exclusively for the player market.
 

Firstly if we couldn't find 30m in 2003 to fund kings dock. How do we plan on finding 300m this time? Sale of Rom part of this? Or can they guarantee any sale funds will be kept for new players!

Secondly how many years do we pay the council 4.4m in security fees for as our guarantor for any loan? Is it just until we find financial backing and if so how much?

Thirdly long long way to go we have been in similar situations before.
 

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