Ronald Koeman discussion

[Zatara]

Our main problem is that the three players behind Lukaku aren't good enough. They don't create enough and they don't score. Our defensive record is fine but no one other than Lukaku and our defenders score.

Compare this with the teams in the top 6 and it's no wonder we are 7th.

The issue in my opinion has been threefold;

1-- Using Bolasie as the focal point of the attack...predictable and underwhelming.

2-- Not having a consistent 3 who can all interject and pass the ball around.

3-- Dropping Deulofeu / Barkley. They get double marked frequently, but if you play both together it creates space for say, Mirallas or even Gueye to move centrally into the box.

If we had say Lookman, Barkley and Gueye we would have pace, skill and attacking threats in all areas and they cant all be stopped.

Im just using lookman as an example as otherwise it would be mirallas and he offers little threat most games.

 

[Zatara]

Looking at this team in all honesty ,I still rate Coleman and Baines despite their occasional lapses of form, Lukaku is the best out and out goalscorer we've had since Lineker, Davies and Holgate are quality, Gana has been exceptional and Deulofeu has the makings of a great winger if he ever applies himself. As for the rest ? Pfffffft.

Holgate
Davies
Gueye
Barkley
Deulofeu
Lukaku

6 players who should be in the team every week. That leaves only 4 outfield players, one may be lookman and the other 3 are the defenders.

Its easy this

 

[Dirty Dutch]

Were not superior to Hull?

You should give some examples mate, im trying to help you here...

If you think 7th is a great job then where should we be in the league if he was doing an average one?

Yes to Hull but i was talking about teams like Watford,West ham,Southampton, stoke, Bournemouth.

I think 7th is the maximum with this squad, the 6 topteams are much better in every position, that pretty clear.

he's doing an average job when we're finishing 9th. Every place below 10th is failure.

 

[Dirty Dutch]

Holgate
Davies
Gueye
Barkley
Deulofeu
Lukaku

6 players who should be in the team every week. That leaves only 4 outfield players, one may be lookman and the other 3 are the defenders.

Its easy this

You're overrating Deulofeu so much. His assist was the first good thing he did this season. Also when he played he was terrible over and over again.

 

[Blues Harp]

Football manager has a lot to answer for .....

 

[Zatara]

Yes to Hull but i was talking about teams like Watford,West ham,Southampton, stoke, Bournemouth.

I think 7th is the maximum with this squad, the 6 topteams are much better in every position, that pretty clear.

he's doing an average job when we're finishing 9th. Every place below 10th is failure.

See my last post with @catcherintherye .

You need a consistent goalscorer to be successful. None of the teams you listed has one...the teams above us all have at least one.

Vardy at leicester and benteke at palace are the only other two

Neither of which has the quality of squad that we do and Leicester play cup games home and abroad + palace just lost benteke to injury

7th is expected...9th would be poor.

 

[Zatara]

You're overrating Deulofeu so much. His assist was the first good thing he did this season. Also when he played he was terrible over and over again.

Cast your mind back to the last game he played against Watford, motm.

 

[Blues Harp]

Big up Unsworth !!

 

[njligernj]

You're overrating Deulofeu so much. His assist was the first good thing he did this season. Also when he played he was terrible over and over again.

I understand you just got here this season with your brother but last year he had more assists than Fabregas, Firmino, Navas, Sissoko, Giroud, Llana, Rooney and lots more. 11th in the league in assists but he can't get a game for us this year? I mean just how did that happen last year if he's so terrible? Is it possible he's good at football?

 

[Blues Harp]

Cast your mind back to the last game he played against Watford, motm.

One game in 20 lad ? - behave !

 

[windymiller]

Better football, better players, better results etc. just grow as a team, try to improve and closing the grap with top 6.

What's this cup obsession with some people? As if we had a good chance to win it.

And there it is. The ultimate example of 20 years of lowering expectations. Yes, actually, a team sitting in 7th place in the top division does have a good chance of winning a domestic cup competition. If we ever do win anything ever again it will make most of us, maybe even you, feel much more positive about everything around the club. What an idiotic statement for someone supposedly extolling the virtues of our current set up. Laughable.

 

[Dirty Dutch]

Can we leave @Dirty Dutch alone please, He's struggling here and its not nice to see

You can put me on ignore if you don't like it, crybaby. You only have to get worried when i'm start writing the same BS as you do.

 

[ilikecheese]

*pulls up chair

 

[blueboy1945]

I am looking at the players.

I like them.

I have no resentment toward them for how much money they make nor do I believe I own their time because I am a fan of the club they happen to play for right now.

I think they are very good at football.

I reject they are any more lazy than any other group of players in a similar tax bracket.

Koeman is far more over paid than any player (okay not Gibson but most of them).

Many of them have finished 5th or higher in the league, been to semis or better of Cups.

I roundly reject your and Koeman's claim that this group of players are under talented and that 7th with this squad is a great job.

I think everyone is being manipulated to turn on the players for a reason and that reason is to cover up failures in the transfer market and failures by the manager to get this team playing good football.

I couldn't care less what you think.

 

[ilikecheese]

*gets popcorn