Ronald Koeman discussion

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...oh, but you are. You are one of the more miserable contributors to the forum...boring, unfunny and, if not a try hard, most certainly trying.

Try to have a happy new year
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dull as dishwater you lad, dull as dishwater. I tell it like I see it, I don't copy others posting style in a vain attempt at humour and fail miserably. Haha, such a dullard.

Anyway Goodbye, that's enough of that in here.
 
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Ajax -- Double first season / 3rd season also won...4th season 8 pts behind and quit in Feb after losing in Uefa Cup.

Note: Ajax had by far the best side in Holland, google their team!

Benfica-- Fans thought he was weird and he finished 3rd in a 3 horse race...won charity shield.

PSV -- Tanked the side Jan/Feb onwards and they were VERY lucky to win on the last day of the season with rivals losing at minnows to hand them the league.

Valencia -- It was David Albelda who was considered an experienced DM (like Barry) and still around the Spain side if im not wrong...Canizares and others were treated shamefully as he basically dropped them from the squad and didnt speak to them or phase them out + wouldnt allow them to leave so there were massive arguments with one or two asking to buy out their contracts. Hated and would have relegated them....never the same since his stint there and were my favourite spanish side to watch at the time.

AZ - just lol

Feyenoord -- Forced to play kids who actually had some great talents.

Southampton -- But ok. Almost sacked 12months ago.


Not exactly a great CV.

Was he sakced at Southampton mate, or did he in fact lead them to there best ever top flight season bar none? Isn't a true test of a manager how they deal with adversity btw, Kendall and Ferguson both came within a game or two of being sacked

PSV - they where very lucky to win on the last day of the season? who cares mate, they won the league do you think any fan cares about luck when you win a title, was their rival btw the same Ajax who only two years earleir had what you desribed as by far the best side in Holland?

Benfica fans though he was wierd, who cares what they thought, maybe Benfica fans are the koppites of Portugal for all we know and wanted him on match day to turn up in a full kit with shinnies on, and you ignored him getting Benfica into the QF of the CL mate?

AZ - took over from one of the best managers in the world and lost some of their best players, and truly Zat i'm guessing like me you didn't watch too many Az games that season - or ever in fact.

Ajax - won 2 leagues in 3 years, the double in one, they had by far the best side in Holland did they, i am guessing it was also a very young side with aa lot of young players given starring roles by the manager mate? who was that manager who trusted in those young players again btw
? and did he instead of playing them go and buy 27yo players from rival dutch teams to avoid playing these kids?


Valencia - Canizares threathened to rtire if he was dropped mate - is that profesional - imagine if Southall had done that and went public with it, Abelda publicly criticised the mager in a press conference, layed into him for treatment of 'senior' players (basically looking out for there own) which IMO is the equivalent of Gerrard ripping into a current liverpool manager - we would have slaughtered him for it and rightly so, doing that proved to me that koeman was 100% correct for wanting him out the team, way too much influence and way too unprofessional doing that, christ a captain suing the club to be allowed to leave should have seen the club sell him first opportunit.
 
dull as dishwater you lad, dull as dishwater. I tell it like I see it, I don't copy others posting style in a vein attempt at humour and fail miserably. Haha, such a dullard.
sorry mouldy cheese, but only in your own mind are you anything but a journeyman contributor; a misery embracing, humourless non-entity.
You're the sort of curmudgeonly fan who sucks the joy out of football.

Please try and make this a happy New Year ...

...and if you cannot, please stay in your ward.
 

Was he sakced at Southampton mate, or did he in fact lead them to there best ever top flight season bar none? Isn't a true test of a manager how they deal with adversity btw, Kendall and Ferguson both came within a game or two of being sacked

PSV - they where very lucky to win on the last day of the season? who cares mate, they won the league do you think any fan cares about luck when you win a title, was their rival btw the same Ajax who only two years earleir had what you desribed as by far the best side in Holland?

Benfica fans though he was wierd, who cares what they thought, maybe Benfica fans are the koppites of Portugal for all we know and wanted him on match day to turn up in a full kit with shinnies on, and you ignored him getting Benfica into the QF of the CL mate?

AZ - took over from one of the best managers in the world and lost some of their best players, and truly Zat i'm guessing like me you didn't watch too many Az games that season - or ever in fact.

Ajax - won 2 leagues in 3 years, the double in one, they had by far the best side in Holland did they, i am guessing it was also a very young side with aa lot of young players given starring roles by the manager mate? who was that manager who trusted in those young players again btw
? and did he instead of playing them go and buy 27yo players from rival dutch teams to avoid playing these kids?


Valencia - Canizares threathened to rtire if he was dropped mate - is that profesional - imagine if Southall had done that and went public with it, Abelda publicly criticised the mager in a press conference, layed into him for treatment of 'senior' players (basically looking out for there own) which IMO is the equivalent of Gerrard ripping into a current liverpool manager - we would have slaughtered him for it and rightly so, doing that proved to me that koeman was 100% correct for wanting him out the team, way too much influence and way too unprofessional doing that, christ a captain suing the club to be allowed to leave should have seen the club sell him first opportunit.

Would also add that Valencia is an absolute mess of a club and koeman went there to sweep the decks clean, unfortunately player power won.
 
Koeman may well be the greatest manager of all time, I think @davek @Khalekan and myself (and others) may have been quick to judge him...

Perhaps I have been blinded by my pure hatred of him due to his below average career so far wrecking teams along the way..however;

Any manager who can have a team playing this badly with no structure, no consistency and what appears to be poor management of game time for players with a long ball strategy...

But still get us to 7th....


Must be the Greatest Manager EVER!!!


Edit: However Pulis is right behind us so hes in good company.

Best 2 managers in the world!!!


What are you like, Zat lol

Happy New Year, pal ;)
 
Would also add that Valencia is an absolute mess of a club and koeman went there to sweep the decks clean, unfortunately player power won.

Pretty sure we are seeing the benefits of what he learnt there in how he's handling phasing out senior players mate, few sweetner contacts to influential figures, gradually reducing there role as with Barry and jags, and bringing in a leader in Williams,who is his man.
 
One thing I will say, the football leading up to winning the penalty was lovely stuff

Fluid passing, forward thinking and it paid off

I'm hoping that this is how Koeman has wanted us to play all along and he's just been trying to get us there

If so, I'm enthused ;)

This Mikey.

It required a lot of things to come together but yesterday even in the first half we saw flashes of decent stuff.

The key though has to be the system. Rom requires support, and it's evident that what we really need is a better alternative to Valencia to provide that, and allow us to play a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 that doesn't isolate Rom.

I think we saw two really different examples of how Koeman wants us to play yesterday with the second and third goals.

Second, as you say, was lovely build up to the penalty incident, with Barks pulling the strings and Mirallas finding room in the final third, rather than on the half-way line.

Third, high pressure, a brilliant tackle and a superb first-time pass by Davies, and class finish from Rom.

Quick, incisive play.
 


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