Ronald Koeman discussion

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BlueToff said:
I'm not saying it'd definitely work like, but at this stage it's clear something needs to change between now and Jan, where we should be going and getting players in sharpish
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It doesn't help that even when we do have chances we're so wasteful and toothless in front of goal - 93 minutes for a shot on target is pitiful.

I agree that we need to adapt our style and system, although I'd question we actually have one, but our failure to be clinical is pretty worrying.
 

ijjysmith said:
Depends if January is a massive balls up or not.

Could I ask you what you expected Koeman, or in fact any new manager, to be able to do with these players? They're not very good.
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The sooner our fans start realising this the better. The players look great on paper, most teams would be delighted with a front 4 of Lukaku, Bolasie, Barkley, Deulofeu/Mirallas, however in reality they are not that good.
 
davek said:
I agree that these players need to be "evolved" out of the club. They are bottlers. They're a core of Moyes players who have zero self motivation for anyone outside of Moyes, IMO.

However, enough can be galvanised to put in a performance going forward. Even last season they demonstrated that much. We at least need to see Koeman change his stance and start playing to that strength. He has to acknowledge that while these players aren't going to go out and play like last season's Leicester for him, they can build moves and be effective if played as a primarily attacking unit.
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If I'm correct 5 out of the whole Matchday squad played under Moyes, that's including Barkley who doesn't count seeing as Moyes got stick for not playing him. I Think it's stretching it to bring Moyes into it.

Jags, Coleman, Baines and Miralles played under him, Jags and Baines are getting older and it's the last 2 managers fault for not replacing them, Coleman needs to cross a ball instead of turning back and inside every chance he gets.
 

Geoff Nulty said:
  • Sorry if this has already been mentioned - I'm not at all impressed by this quote from Koeman about the Southampton striker who made his debut today, having progressed through their academy: "I wasn't aware of Josh Sims when I was here and he is not my problem - I work for Everton, not Southampton." Why wasn't he aware of him? He was their manager up until the summer.
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It must be very disheartening for the youth players to hear that. It probably seems to them that no matter how well they do, it's unlikely they'll be given a chance by a manager who pays little attention to them.
 
ijjysmith said:
Depends if January is a massive balls up or not.

Could I ask you what you expected Koeman, or in fact any new manager, to be able to do with these players? They're not very good.
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1.Motivate them for more than 40 seconds. :locked:

Ok I'll go on...

2.Stop doing the same thing every week when it hasn't worked with this playing group for 3 seasons.
3.Integrate 1 young player into the 11 to at least try something new. We aren't winning anyways and won't be with this same old starting 11.

TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.....
 
kithnou said:
1.Motivate them for more than 40 seconds. :locked:

Ok I'll go on...

2.Stop doing the same thing every week when it hasn't worked with this playing group for 3 seasons.
3.Integrate 1 young player into the 11 to at least try something new. We aren't winning anyways and won't be with this same old starting 11.

TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.....
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Maybe try 3 at the back?


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