Ronald Koeman discussion

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Duncan Disordely said:
Koeman needs to be doing better, I'd like to see a change in tactics and formation, and he definitely needs to freshen the starting 11 up with a couple of the u23's.

However, I'm not hanging this all on Koeman, no way. This is pretty much two and a half seasons of this kind of no aggression, no backbone, no heart performances.

There's something rotten at the core of the squad. Heads drop the minute things go against us, players either can't or won't press the opposition, the movement from Lukaku + 2 wingers is constantly non-existent. Players seem to bothered about moaning at each other than actually trying to do something themselves. Koeman, Walsh and Moshiri have massive work to do to fix a broken squad, and it's going for take either a few transfer windows, or a couple really bold windows where we bin a lot of them off.

There's a malaise around the club where mediocrity is acceptable, too many people; players, staff and suits just aren't winners.

We're supposed to be Nothing But the Best is good enough, too often best of the rest has been acceptable.
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Spot on DD ;) Good logic there
 
toffee matt said:
What do people see in him that suggests he can turn this around?

Serious question
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Its a good question. The only thing I'd say is that he likes fitness, strength and pace in his players. And a will to compete and win! Seemingly this squad don't have those qualities. But, so far there's no suggestion he's imposing his philosophy on the players. That is worrying in itself. Short of overhauling the squad as soon as is possible, or getting another manager to get a tune out of these players I haven't got the answer. For me, I've had enough of this squad right now. Theyve had plenty of chances to step up to the task. Worries over Koeman only slightly behind though!
 

To me.... he just doesn't get what we are about (History wise) Martinez at least came in and embraced the history and put all our great players up on the walls of FF.He seems to have nothing but financial gain and eyes elsewhere
 
davek said:
All he needed to do here was fix that friggin back four and leave the rest as found. What has he tried to do though? He hasn't fixed the defence, he's just made us dull and unbalanced.

I want the feller to lead us to a better future, but he is looking like a complete 'kin car crash right now. It feels like we made a big mistake at this early stage.
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How can you judge him after 3 months - you have an agenda and jumps out in every post.
 
summerisle said:
Mmmm, we need a bit of luck. I think we need a bit more than that. If he thinks the second half is acceptable then I'm scared.

http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2016/11/poor-starts-mystery-koeman/

Poor starts are a mystery to Koeman

Ronald Koeman says he finds it hard to explain why his Everton side have found it so difficult to hit the ground running in matches this season.

Before the international break his side struggled early on against Chelsea and then last weekend against Swansea the Blues seemed half asleep until the second half.

Today against Southampton it took the hosts just 42 seconds to take the lead which won them the game, but Koeman says the second half was much better, which seems to be the story of our season so far.

“It’s sometimes difficult to explain why,” he said when asked about Everton’s persistently poor starts to games this season.

“It’s Everton’s kick off in the game and then I think after 10 seconds we lost the ball from Gana to Lennon.

“Not really good defending position in the box and that makes it difficult.

“I can’t complain about our second half, we put a lot of effort in on the pitch and it’s difficult to score the goals at the moment.

“I think the start of Southampton in the game was better than our start and the 1-0 so fast in the game makes it difficult.

“They drop back with a lot of ball possession.

“I think it was a game that had to see more goals from Everton and also from Southampton because they had the chances in the second half to kill the game but we had some chance in, in my opinion, a good second half.

“Much better than the first half, again, and that’s the problem – how we start the game.

“It’s all about winning the game. Maybe it’s easy to say this but we need to work hard and start better than we started today.

“We need to repeat that performance of the second half because that’s how we need to play but we also need a bit of luck.”
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WTF???

Repeat the 2nd half performance???

WOW
 

moyes cardy said:
The mess of the previous era will take time to sort - there is no magic wand. What did you expect a bottom half team to top 4 in 6 months? Expectations are far to high and some of the usual trolls of doom need a reality check.
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Did I expect Koeman to be able to coach and organise this team to finish 1 place higher?? Yep, I did.

Particularly as Martinez allegedly got sacked for under performing with one of our best ever squads.
 
What seems to be missed easily is that we have a captain with no voice on the pitch and right now he is also the first person to be a liability on the pitch.

Perhaps why the team has no direction on the pitch?
 
He needs to change the system. I've had enough of this. Gosh 442 with Valencia would at least be something different. To be honest I've always despised our rigid version of the 4231. I just want something new. Something fresh. Mind you it's irrelevant if our work ethic remains diabolical.
 

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