Ronald Koeman discussion

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Many seasons start off in the Prem or old Div 1 with a minnow or a team that you don't expect at the top, for a few weeks,
then they drop like a stone. (Only Leicester proving me wrong). I genuinely think that we are that stone this season.
The teams above us at the moment will stay above us, the teams down to 17th place have better managers than we have,
the present bottom 3 have more fight in them than we do. Koeman is going to break the bank in January, and I think most
of us know, he should not be trusted, Sack him now! He has had the best Everton squad we have had in years, and we are
getting nowhere. Get Unsworth in with one of the backroom staff, just for the rest of this season. Mark my words: Koeman
will freeze against Liverpool (He's already said the RS are the best in the league), do you think that Dunc alongside
Unsworth & Royle will give us fight? I do.
 

Many seasons start off in the Prem or old Div 1 with a minnow or a team that you don't expect at the top, for a few weeks,
then they drop like a stone. (Only Leicester proving me wrong). I genuinely think that we are that stone this season.
The teams above us at the moment will stay above us, the teams down to 17th place have better managers than we have,
the present bottom 3 have more fight in them than we do. Koeman is going to break the bank in January, and I think most
of us know, he should not be trusted, Sack him now! He has had the best Everton squad we have had in years, and we are
getting nowhere. Get Unsworth in with one of the backroom staff, just for the rest of this season. Mark my words: Koeman
will freeze against Liverpool (He's already said the RS are the best in the league), do you think that Dunc alongside
Unsworth & Royle will give us fight? I do.

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on ignore you go
 
Many seasons start off in the Prem or old Div 1 with a minnow or a team that you don't expect at the top, for a few weeks,
then they drop like a stone. (Only Leicester proving me wrong). I genuinely think that we are that stone this season.
The teams above us at the moment will stay above us, the teams down to 17th place have better managers than we have,
the present bottom 3 have more fight in them than we do. Koeman is going to break the bank in January, and I think most
of us know, he should not be trusted, Sack him now! He has had the best Everton squad we have had in years, and we are
getting nowhere. Get Unsworth in with one of the backroom staff, just for the rest of this season. Mark my words: Koeman
will freeze against Liverpool (He's already said the RS are the best in the league), do you think that Dunc alongside
Unsworth & Royle will give us fight? I do.
WOW!!
That's how to move the club forward isn't it :hayee:
 
Many seasons start off in the Prem or old Div 1 with a minnow or a team that you don't expect at the top, for a few weeks,
then they drop like a stone. (Only Leicester proving me wrong). I genuinely think that we are that stone this season.
The teams above us at the moment will stay above us, the teams down to 17th place have better managers than we have,
the present bottom 3 have more fight in them than we do. Koeman is going to break the bank in January, and I think most
of us know, he should not be trusted, Sack him now! He has had the best Everton squad we have had in years, and we are
getting nowhere. Get Unsworth in with one of the backroom staff, just for the rest of this season. Mark my words: Koeman
will freeze against Liverpool (He's already said the RS are the best in the league), do you think that Dunc alongside
Unsworth & Royle will give us fight? I do.
Koeman has said in the past 6 weeks or so that City are the best PL team he's ever seen; then he said Chelsea played the best football he'd ever seen; and has recently stated that the way Liverpool play he can see them winning the league.

I fully expect this to be a recurring theme with him, whereby all clubs above us are placed on a level beyond our competitive reach. It's his version of taking a knife to a gunfight.
 
Koeman has said in the past 6 weeks or so that City are the best PL team he's ever seen; then he said Chelsea played the best football he'd ever seen; and has recently stated that the way Liverpool play he can see them winning the league.

I fully expect this to be a recurring theme with him, whereby all clubs above us are placed on a level beyond our competitive reach. It's his version of taking a knife to a gunfight.

Yet he's said on each of those occasions that that's where he wants Everton to be - on that level...
 

...as did Moyes.

As did Martinez... Who took us further away from that level than anybody.

I wanted Bobby to succeed because deep down there is a very good footballing mind and he knows how to play the game and get sides/clubs to play exciting football.

But all of the fundamentals are missing and the damage he did is only now coming to real fruition.

We're in a slump but half of that is down to the players simply not been up to scratch to adapt to a style of play that can be competitive with the big boys.

Koeman's got a lot of work to do, and he's made mistakes so far. However, given he's 12 games in I think that's to be expected.
 
Koeman has said in the past 6 weeks or so that City are the best PL team he's ever seen; then he said Chelsea played the best football he'd ever seen; and has recently stated that the way Liverpool play he can see them winning the league.

I fully expect this to be a recurring theme with him, whereby all clubs above us are placed on a level beyond our competitive reach. It's his version of taking a knife to a gunfight.
And at the time of each of the 3 quotes he was right! Unfortunately the last one we don't want to believe or hear but we all agree..
 
As did Martinez... Who took us further away from that level than anybody.

I wanted Bobby to succeed because deep down there is a very good footballing mind and he knows how to play the game and get sides/clubs to play exciting football.

But all of the fundamentals are missing and the damage he did is only now coming to real fruition.

We're in a slump but half of that is down to the players simply not been up to scratch to adapt to a style of play that can be competitive with the big boys.

Koeman's got a lot of work to do, and he's made mistakes so far. However, given he's 12 games in I think that's to be expected.
I dont want to turn this into a sideshow about Martinez as there's already dedicated thread, but never did Martinez give the constant impression that he saw the elite as out of our reach. I think all of us can at least agree on that.
 
I dont want to turn this into a sideshow about Martinez as there's already dedicated thread, but never did Martinez give the constant impression that he saw the elite as out of our reach. I think all of us can at least agree on that.

No, but his actions over the past few years put us further out of reach to the 'elite' than we have been in a while...
 

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