kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
I don't think you are alone in your thoughts.
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Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
And this seems to be the issue, we have no other way if breaking teams down
Putting crosses in against disciplined defences is not always the answer, we need more guile in our play
A plan b of sorts
Coffee and TV
Player Valuation: £25m
We need a creative midfielder that will allow us to play through the middle. We were also trying to get one during the summer and missed out, and now it's really showing.
Coffee and TV
Player Valuation: £25m
I feel like people have suddenly developed a really high demand for the number of academy players they want us to be playing. In the first 12 games Koeman has given Holgate his debut, brought Davis on 3 times and put Calvert-Lewin in the squad ahead of Niasse, but he's constantly being accused of not giving youth a chance. It's like people want us to put out an XI of academy kids.
just getting back home now after that disappointing trip for my first game in 3yrs.
I dont particularly want Koeman and dont expect much from him but I think the general rule of giving a manager a couple of seasons should always be applied barring a disaster.
However I think its fair to have a fear that the football he will serve up wont be all that and quite possibly wont be any more successful than a decent Moyes season.
There was a fair bit of the long diagonal hoof yesterday and it drove me mad. Also it seemed Gana was receiving the ball in just the kind of areas youd like to see Barkley have it, with space to turn and run at the defence...so I dont know if he is being used in the right way. Gana did well sometimes though to be aware of the space he had at his back but other moments he seemed to have no idea he could turn into acres of space and just ended up passing back again.
I just want a playmaker. However I don't know if that would even be on Koemans radar. We have no guile whatsoever.
I dont particularly want Koeman and dont expect much from him but I think the general rule of giving a manager a couple of seasons should always be applied barring a disaster.
However I think its fair to have a fear that the football he will serve up wont be all that and quite possibly wont be any more successful than a decent Moyes season.
There was a fair bit of the long diagonal hoof yesterday and it drove me mad. Also it seemed Gana was receiving the ball in just the kind of areas youd like to see Barkley have it, with space to turn and run at the defence...so I dont know if he is being used in the right way. Gana did well sometimes though to be aware of the space he had at his back but other moments he seemed to have no idea he could turn into acres of space and just ended up passing back again.
I just want a playmaker. However I don't know if that would even be on Koemans radar. We have no guile whatsoever.
Barkley dropping deeper/a change in system is definitely needed mate.
He isn't a number 10. He needs room. It showed in the second half yesterday how much better he is when he gets the ball and is able to run at people.
kenada_blue
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Application of tactics which are to get it out wide as soon as and pump balls in or build from out wide. Nothing through the middle, nothing over the top of a defence.
Against Swansea, who sat off in the 2nd half after holding on to a lead. It was kitchen sink rather than anything.
The 30 odd shots game, was what, Burnley? Most of which were long range efforts.
And I have said before, he's trying to get players to play a way theyre not suited too.
As for conceding possession, we spend the same time chasing the ball as keeping it as our possession stats average at 50%.
I agree to a point, however his has a habit of giving the ball away cheaply and if he played in deeper areas this would cause massive problems and goals. Quite simply, he can't be trusted in a deeper role, hence why he doesn't play there.
Not suited to or unwilling to.
His tactics require the players to play for 90minutes, rather than 10minutes.
tim cahill
Player Valuation: £50m
Disagree with this. Ross keeps hold of the ball well until it gets congested in the final 3rd.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Well that's a poor total considering they finished 6th.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
it got me thinking of Barkley deep and a playmaker of some sort playing higher up and how good a mix that could be.
We dont even have an aging or inconsistent playmaker as part of the squad. As an option when needed. There's plenty of players ranging from bang average to decent hanging around squads out there that would make a noticeable difference to what happens in our final third. Not week in week out but would contribute something on a regular enough basis that we just are not seeing right now. Hell I watch Hoolahan play through balls, link play and generally play smart for Ireland and he is in the Championship at Norwich. How can we be so short of that type of option?
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
THIS IS NOT FOOTBALL
WHO’S KOEMAN WHO?
Boss, that, Everton. Boss.
We were meant to bounce back, come out fighting, show what we’re made of with a point to prove and all the other things that you say after Chelsea have made you squeal like a pig, boy, and you want to take everyone’s mind off it by talking about getting back on the training ground and taking a long hard look at yourself before stepping up to the plate.
Amid all that stuff there was almost certainly no mention of playing like [Poor language removed] against the Swans who so far this season have looked incapable of breaking their duck, never mind anyone’s arm.
The atmosphere around Goodison, which has been kind of weird for a while, is now more recognisable as simply hostile. The lusty boos at half time and the final whistle were almost comforting.
It’s not helped by the manager coming across as such an odd, distant character and his recent comments being picked up and highlighted in a rather unflattering light. He looks like a hard-drinking, cynical priest who teaches the boys boxing at his rundown old church in Hells Kitchen – the roof leaks and the donations on the collection plate are only small, but the hearts of the people are big and they don’t appreciate outsiders coming down here and snooping around, asking questions and digging up things that are best off forgotten, but his demeanour is that of slight exasperation, especially when he sits hunched forwards in his press conferences with that pained look that makes you think he’s dying for the khazi.
Win games and his candour with the Dutch press won’t matter a jot, but when the team look a bag of [Poor language removed] then every comment comes under extra scrutiny.
In terms of his management, he gives the impression that he thinks that most of the players are last and hasn’t made any secret of it. In particular, the three wingers who aren’t Yannick Bolasie keep getting changed every game and so never get a chance to play themselves into any sort of form. And after dodging a £30 million bullet in the shape of that Sissoko who went to Tottenham in the summer, is anyone thrilled at the prospect of that lazy little shitehawk Memphis Depay being added to that mix in January?
It’s hard to really pinpoint what our style of play is either. Under the admittedly flawed Roberto Martinez you could see what the plan was, even if it could prove disastrous whenever it wasn’t executed correctly. Now though, we just seem ‘quite solid’ – apart from when Eden Hazard went through us like piss through snow, obviously – but going forward there doesn’t seem to be a lot of cohesion. Instead of attacking as a team, it’s more ‘give it to one of the flair players and hope they can produce something out of nothing’.
And while Koeman keeps talking about pressing from the front – as every [Poor language removed] does nowadays – there doesn’t really seem to be much evidence of it. Certainly not compared to the other lot over the road whose forwards and midfielders are legging round like mangy dogs that have got out over the back fence.
So are we just killing time until January then – acknowledged as the worst time to do business – when he’s going to replace half the squad? Because that’s what it looks like it needs at the moment.
Again, harking back to Martinez, and maybe even the David Moyes of the early years when everyone liked him, there was a feeling that they were trying to make a team that was – and we know we have battered this phrase down the years – ‘more than the sum of its parts’. And so there was always the hope that we could compete with more monied clubs by dint of our organisations and work ethic under Moyes, and Martinez’s teams’ ability to lull opponents to sleep with their obnoxiously insistent possession. It turned out that ultimately we couldn’t, like – compete with the top sides – we pretty much consistently got beat in all the big games, but for the most part we usually had a reason to at least hope we could. So it seems almost perverse then that now we’re supposedly beyond all our cash woes, and have appointed a heavyweight ‘name’ manager, that optimism seems to have evaporated. There’s nothing in our approach that seems to set us apart from the rest of the league, and so we feel almost resigned to being limited by the players at our disposal.
That’s how it feels at the moment, anyway. On the flip-side, Koeman has only had one summer and less than a dozen league games in charge thus far – a manager needs far longer than that to shape a side into exactly what he desires. Until he makes all the signings he wants though, he needs to work with what he’s got, and certainly needs to get more out of his attacking players.
Going back Saturday’s opponents, who could forget the alliterative headline when Henry Winkler targeted them in that Bernie Madoff-style scam?
Corrections and apologies
It’s been brought to our attention that the previous pun involves rhyming, not alliteration.
It has also been brought to our attention – by several concerned readers – that it is absolute [Poor language removed].
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