Let's not kid ourselves

ted45 · October 23, 2016

Everton are a mid-table side. I suspect this season will end with us: P38 W13 D 12 L13 Pts 51. I think that the European places will go to United, City. Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool. I doubt that we will win any cups because that requires an element of luck (and Everton don't do luck). And I cannot see the next transfer windows producing anything but the in and out of a few journeymen, because top players don't want to know us because we are not in Europe.
I wish that I didn't believe this but I cannot convince myself otherwise.

Gladystweet · October 23, 2016

Ok, I won't.

COYBL25 · October 23, 2016

Gladystweet · October 23, 2016

Made my day that has....

Caolam · October 23, 2016

I think we are a side in transition, but I think the more time Koeman has the better we will get. We will will more games then we lose. Finish about 8th.

summerisle · October 23, 2016

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Gladystweet · October 23, 2016

GwladysBlue · October 23, 2016

Koeman has a huge rebuild job.

Other than Lukaku and Gueye I wouldn't care if the rest were sold.

Groucho · October 23, 2016

I think we could all do with a little less "the sky is falling in" after a defeat in October.

Tubey · October 23, 2016

Groucho said:
I think we could all do with a little less "the sky is falling in" after a defeat in October.

What is it with the arbitrary time periods that have to pass before you can criticise anything on here?

People were the same with Martinez, yet were proven spot on 12 months prior to the bandwagon getting in motion.

Right now, it's crystal clear that the summer has done over any chance we had of competing properly, so it's very reasonable to state right now that we are cemented as also rans for the rest of the season, and the ball has been dropped on gaining momentum under a supposed billionaire 'investor' and that will probably have a negative impact on next season too.

ToffeeDan · October 23, 2016

The squad is not great - not enough tacklers and not enough team players. The best ones are past 30 (with a couple of exceptions). Badly miss Bainesy.

But I prefer to judge us on what we deserve from the games - you can't play that well and lose 2-1 often. Granted we came up against a determined defence but we'll play less well and win those games more often than we draw or lose them.

We've got a really good manager and that's worth 10 points a season.

NSNO_Phil_1878 · October 23, 2016

We still have a better side than the RS IMO. Not having this.

Groucho · October 23, 2016

Tubey said:
What is it with the arbitrary time periods that have to pass before you can criticise anything on here?

People were the same with Martinez, yet were proven spot on 12 months prior to the bandwagon getting in motion.

Right now, it's crystal clear that the summer has done over any chance we had of competing properly, so it's very reasonable to state right now that we are cemented as also rans for the rest of the season, and the ball has been dropped on gaining momentum under a supposed billionaire 'investor' and that will probably have a negative impact on next season too.

Rather than an arbitrary time period, it just feels like there's an obligatory mass fume after every result that doesn't go our way.

I feel we could do with retaining at least some positivity for the time being, personally, otherwise we'll do our own heads in with negativity.

WA Toffee · October 23, 2016

Tubey said:
What is it with the arbitrary time periods that have to pass before you can criticise anything on here?

People were the same with Martinez, yet were proven spot on 12 months prior to the bandwagon getting in motion.

Right now, it's crystal clear that the summer has done over any chance we had of competing properly, so it's very reasonable to state right now that we are cemented as also rans for the rest of the season, and the ball has been dropped on gaining momentum under a supposed billionaire 'investor' and that will probably have a negative impact on next season too.

Sane people usually allow more than a handful of games before coming to judgements about what is and what isn't possible.

By all means critique each performance individually if you must, but we are currently 6th in the table, how you extrapolate that to mean we will be mid table mediocrity and on a downward spiral is more a reflection on you than Everton