Transfer Rumour Lamine Kone

BlueToff · August 9, 2016

EvertonRhys said:
A bit underwhelming really- like Gueye. Maybe @Sunderland afc can give us the low down? I was more impressed by Jan Kirchoff personally, from the Sunderland games I did see.

Kirchoff is a decent holding midfielder, but was awful as a centre half

Connor · August 9, 2016

Sunderland afc said:
He is a very good player. Will be gutted if he goes. Best centre half we've had for a long time.

Any chance of throwing Cattermole into the deal too?

ExpatinBangkok · August 9, 2016

A squad rotation player. Mind you, stones played like a squad rotation player last season and at least we made some cash.

Eggs · August 9, 2016

....good, we haven't opened another transfer thread for at least 5 minutes.

barneygumble · August 9, 2016

Joey66 said:
So why pay 12 million for a 32 year old then???????

Because we need a leader. We need depth.

Koeman likes to play three central defenders. With Williams, Kone, Jagielka, Mori and Holgate, we'd have that, and the ability to rotate. In Williams, we'd have a proven leader we've been crying out for. Kone, he's a character, the Sunderland fans loved him for it. We slightly relate to Besic for that reason, yet the difference is Kone, has proven it on the field, a real physical unit, which you could argue we've missed since Stubbs.

They're similar players, but likewise entirely different, and importantly add depth. Stones going only goes to show that Koeman wants to win now, with experience and youth, so everyone needs to chill out. We'll be okay.

EvertonRhys · August 9, 2016

BlueToff said:
Kirchoff is a decent holding midfielder, but was awful as a centre half

Sure I saw him play a couple of decent games at centre half? More than likely I'm talking hash though.

Joey66 · August 9, 2016

barneygumble said:
Because we need a leader. We need depth.

Koeman likes to play three central defenders. With Williams, Kone, Jagielka, Mori and Holgate, we'd have that, and the ability to rotate. In Williams, we'd have a proven leader we've been crying out for. Kone, he's a character, the Sunderland fans loved him for it. We slightly relate to Besic for that reason, yet the difference is Kone, has proven it on the field, a real physical unit, which you could argue we've missed since Stubbs.

They're similar players, but likewise entirely different, and importantly add depth. Stones going only goes to show that Koeman wants to win now, with experience and youth, so everyone needs to chill out. We'll be okay.

Its a gamble its over the top the fee too I may be wrong, but if we were selling a classy Stones Williams really is he the answer no very fast on the deck is he might as well have got a younger stopper!

BlueToff · August 9, 2016

EvertonRhys said:
Sure I saw him play a couple of decent games at centre half? More than likely I'm talking hash though.

nah - he played his debut as a centre half and was taken off at half time he was that poor.

better in midfield as he just sits and holds, and was used as an auxiliary defender at times but not to much success.

BlueToff · August 9, 2016

Joey66 said:
Its a gamble its over the top the fee too I may be wrong, but if we were selling a classy Stones Williams really is he the answer no very fast on the deck is he might as well have got a younger stopper!

but the key to bringing him in is his experience and leadership Joey.

Hopefully we'll be bringing in that younger defender you speak of as well.

larrygobfiend · August 9, 2016

ExpatinBangkok said:
A squad rotation player. Mind you, stones played like a squad rotation player last season and at least we made some cash.

An £18m squad rotation player. Okay mate.

Albertini78 · August 9, 2016

heatmeiser said:
Sunderland fan I work with has been saying that he hasn't seen a worse defender there since Anton Ferdinand.

Is he blind or you work in a mental home ? Kone is a very solid player and we've had far worse since Anton tell him to start watching another sport the utter pleb

KaiserEFC · August 9, 2016

We become billionaires and this is the standard of player we are looking at

The future is bright.

CahillsCornerFlag · August 9, 2016

killenefc said:
We become billionaires and this is the standard of player we are looking at

The future is bright.

You have no idea how good Kone is, it's just not an exotic or big name.

Albertini78 · August 9, 2016

orly said:
Sunderland shipped 62 goals with this biff playing half a season

Aye we also lost 1 of our last 11 since that biff joined the club

barneygumble · August 9, 2016

Joey66 said:
Its a gamble its over the top the fee too I may be wrong, but if we were selling a classy Stones Williams really is he the answer no very fast on the deck is he might as well have got a younger stopper!

The way i've seen it (well I hope i'm reading it right) he'll come in with vast premier league experience, which for most part, has been in one of the tightest defences in the league for the last 4-5 years. He'll be able to nurture Funes Mori (and with no disrespect to Stones or Jagielka) and help him and Holgate grow in the team. Importantly, he's a leader, he'll ensure we're organised, and we missed that so much over the last few seasons unfortunately. £12m may be a big sum, but the way the league is going £12m is more like £5m from 5 years ago. Shrewd business for me.