Everton Transfer Thread 2016

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jcgefc said:
Right now i'm most concerned about getting a quality keeper in.

I'm not too worried about Mata and Witsel dragging on but I think we should be looking to get that first choice keeper in this week.
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I think the keeper is the one that there's no real sign of yet, tbh. It's why Stek was brought in though, IMO, as we've at least got two keepers for pre-season while the proper target is identified. That's just my thoughts on it.
 
catcherintherye said:
I have seen a lot of this recently. If the kids are good enough why go and spend money on a player? Isn't that just spending for the sake of spending?

The 4 senior players we have lost, of the outfield players probably played less than 10 games last season and everyone wanted Howard gone. Howard has been replaced with a better option already. Of the 3 outfield players we have mentioned half a dozen young lads who should be able to cover their contribution and be an improvement on them.

That will leave us to targeting a higher quality of player. I think we are doing this as yet unsuccessfully. I am very relaxed about this and will judge on by the end of August. We will spend money.
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How many of those kids do you expect to make it. 1 maybe 2 at most. How many have made it from our academy in the last 20 years?

To simply throw them in and expect them to be our cover when injuries hit is unfair to them and could relegate us. Be sensible.

That's even assuming our first 11 is strong enough which it isn't even close to challenge for the top 6.
 
bicycleheader said:
Zatman, in a couple of his more hysterical posts.

I think the we want action and I expect this and that approach to football fandom is a nonsense.

That its nice to see actual events, and its great to get signings in early is without doubt but placing these timelines and demands on things as if the effect on our season is black and white is a bit ridiculous to me. But each to their own.
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Is it really hysterical to be shocked that we have not made a single signing and in fact have made 2 arguably negative moves with skekelenburg and gibson?

All of this "he needs time to assess the players"is hogwash and poppycock!!!

Any fool knows we need to make at least 5 big signings and we should have already made at least one....that being a keeper.

If we dont get at least 3 in this week then it will be guillotine time.
 

The Esk said:
I don't know if you listened to me on 5 Live mate arguing this very point. They were very much of the impression Koeman was too big a name to consider coming to Everton and that we would end up with Moyes or possibly Howe.

You will know better than me the scale of profile Koeman has in European football, it is not insignificant.
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This is the argument. The media even questioned whether Everton, for the time being is a bigger club than Soton. My United mate said he has seen no difference in Everton and Soton in terms of club size so why would Koeman leaves Soton for us? We give the impression to the public that we are small time for 20 odd years. Moshiri is turning this around I am sure.
 
Ashtonluke said:
We attracted a manager is a significant upgrade on Martinez.
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I'm still not getting this. Why is he a significant upgrade?

Sure, I think he's a step-up...the next-level if you like. His record is ok-to-good. Significant means Koeman will turn out doing better for us than our best Prem season: i.e. Champs League qualification and a cup win.

I see no evidence this is a given. The managers I mentioned are serial winners in big leagues.
 
dholliday said:
Aye...I have to be honest @The Esk this is quite hyperbolic. No one puts Koeman on that pedestal of Mourinho, Löw, Emery, Blanc, even Pellegrini and de Boer (tho' the latter only with Bergkamp & Stam included) were on a higher pedestal from the pool of potential managers we were all talking about.

Sure Pellegrini apparently didn't impress in the job interview, but Koeman has a lot to prove still. His record is ok-to-good...not great. He does seem a step up from Martinez and possibly Moyes too, but he's not the "very high profile and quality" manager who's "way beyond" media expecation.


So perhaps reign in the hyperbolic optimism a bit and let's all quietly wait for action. Hopefully it'll come soon and we can discuss real tangible things again.
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Some really rate him here and others like me think hes awful....certainly i dont think anyone is amazed we got him.
 
BlueToff said:
I think the keeper is the one that there's no real sign of yet, tbh. It's why Stek was brought in though, IMO, as we've at least got two keepers for pre-season while the proper target is identified. That's just my thoughts on it.
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Yeah, no solid links anywhere really, though schmeichel seems to keep popping up in the media.
 

The Esk said:
I don't know if you listened to me on 5 Live mate arguing this very point. They were very much of the impression Koeman was too big a name to consider coming to Everton and that we would end up with Moyes or possibly Howe.

You will know better than me the scale of profile Koeman has in European football, it is not insignificant.
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I remember the interview well (I didn't know it was you at the time!) and I would say what you are saying is an understatement. They were rude in how they almost sniggered at you for suggesting it. They didn't debate it, they just flat our told you that Koeman "would want to go to a big big club". What annoys me with that type in the media is that there will never be an apology or holding their hands up that they got it wrong subsequently.

Koeman is a massive capture on a number of levels. As a name in football I think he's probably the most successful we have ever had associated with ourselves. As a manager he has won numerous trophies in lots of different countries. More importantly he was managing a side in the top 6 of the premier league and left them. People have to think of that, he deems being at a club that are 6th and have been in the top 8 for the past 3 seasons as not able to match his ambitions. What do people think he wants to do with us if that's the case?

The Old adage of Rome wasn't built in a day is a cliché that thrown around but it is very important here. Go and see Manchester City's first transfer window and the players they signed, contrary to belief they didn't just go and buy world class players straight away (it was Robinho on the last day of the window). There has to be a bit of realism of the pace things can move at.

More than ever there is an insatiable desire for instant gratification. It is not helpful to the club and more importantly it won't make you happy. There will always be someone bigger, better and more expensive out there that we can buy. That's the paradox of life you always want more. However people should try to look at things by taking a step back. We are half way through July, negotiating deals with a very talented squad.
 
Tubey said:
I said 'perceived best'. He obviously wasn't, but it was the statement that mattered. Instantly, City meant business. And that's the point. Do Everton 'mean business' in the same way right now? Not at all.

They signed him the moment they arrived by the way - the last day of the transfer window, within hours. The fact they got Robinho done in itself was startling.
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I know what you mean and it certainly did get headlines. But from a purely football point of view it was a disaster.
I would rather spend money more carefully.
 

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