New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

jal123 · May 16, 2016

mythbuster said:
Any idea if the William Collins Playing Fields (Sandhills)are classed as a brownfield site?

No idea, but surely this would be the best location?

Togger Blue · May 16, 2016

Norwegian Cow said:
who needs schools anyway. Football is more important.

But ... footy needs 'The School of Science' which is most important!

AndyC · May 16, 2016

Norwegian Cow said:
You shouldn't be too sure about that. I am a cow.

Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

mythbuster · May 16, 2016

Whistlin' Dixie said:
They won't be - as the title suggests.

Haha, thought that to be honest. They're not a park though, and you'd have to be mental to call it part of the greenbelt.

I think it would be quite feasible to obtain the site.

mythbuster · May 16, 2016

jal123 said:
No idea, but surely this would be the best location?

By a mile mate, by an effing mile.

The Esk · May 16, 2016

atrottel said:
The 'development opportunities' in Joe's area are:

Kingsway Industrial Park

Ogdens Factory

Georges Road

Bankhall Street (near station)

Derby Road/Forth Street (near station and docks)

Sandhills (near station)

Great Howard Street (docks)

See this PDF

Thanks mate, it's interesting however not one of the sites currently offered in that document are big enough to hold a stadium.

Goodison is 8 acres (from memory), conventional thoughts are that considerably more space is requires - Emirates is a 17 acre site for example.

Interesting times ahead.

Kiwi · May 16, 2016

Norwegian Cow said:
You shouldn't be too sure about that. I am a cow.

Who ever knew cows could be so negative

Norwegian Cow · May 16, 2016

Kiwi said:
Who ever knew cows could be so negative

years of being tipped does that to you

Whistlin' Dixie · May 16, 2016

mythbuster said:
Haha, thought that to be honest. They're not a park though, and you'd have to be mental to call it part of the greenbelt.

I think it would be quite feasible to obtain the site.

Council owned, like. I'm not sure how the residents'd take to it though. The benefits of the stadium being there (Along with 'Project Jennifer' being a few hundred yards away) would far outweigh the pitfalls of losing a few football pitches on a playing field - which I'm sure we could accommodate for/ replace.

mythbuster · May 16, 2016

The Esk said:
Thanks mate, it's interesting however not one of the sites currently offered in that document are big enough to hold a stadium.

Goodison is 8 acres (from memory), conventional thoughts are that considerably more space is requires - Emirates is a 17 acre site for example.

Interesting times ahead.

William Collins Playing Fields (Sandhills) is a much bigger footprint than what we currently have Esk.

TheFinnFan · May 16, 2016

The Esk said:
Thanks mate, it's interesting however not one of the sites currently offered in that document are big enough to hold a stadium.

Goodison is 8 acres (from memory), conventional thoughts are that considerably more space is requires - Emirates is a 17 acre site for example.

Interesting times ahead.

Do you have any idea of big enough places that might be on Moshys drawing board?

BirkenheadBlue · May 16, 2016

Am I the only one who thinks (as stunning as the plans looked, and as iconic as the stadium would have been) that the Kings Dock could had been a logistical nightmare?

The Echo arena holds about 20% of the number of people that KD would have had at capacity.

That part of the road network pretty much grinds to a halt when a concert kicks out (usually around 11pm, when there's not a whole lot of other traffic on the roads). Can you imagine 5x as many people flooding out at 5pm on a busy shopping Saturday?!

mythbuster · May 16, 2016

Whistlin' Dixie said:
Council owned, like. I'm not sure how the residents'd take to it though. The benefits of the stadium being there (Along with 'Project Jennifer' being a few hundred yards away) would far outweigh the pitfalls of losing a few football pitches on a playing field - which I'm sure we could accommodate for/ replace.

Knock a few streets down mate (and let's be honest, the area is in desperate need of regeneration) and you could quite easily incorporate a larger park (with a footy pitch) into the design.

GwladysBlue · May 16, 2016

Kenwright's THIRD failed stadium move.

How is this joke of a chairman still holding such an influential position at the club?

jal123 · May 16, 2016

BirkenheadBlue said:
Am I the only one who thinks (as stunning as the plans looked, and as iconic as the stadium would have been) that the Kings Dock could had been a logistical nightmare?

The Echo arena holds about 20% of the number of people that KD would have had at capacity.

That part of the road network pretty much grinds to a halt when a concert kicks out (usually around 11pm, when there's not a whole lot of other traffic on the roads). Can you imagine 5x as many people flooding out at 5pm on a busy shopping Saturday?!

Park and ride would've been the plan