Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

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Timak said:
“I just want to believe, with the work I have done for the last three years, there are signs there that we are getting close to challenging for silverware and whereEverton should be,” he said. “We developed young players, gave them big roles and they reacted, and showed character, flair and drive in the biggest football arena.

“In the first season we had a [club] record number of points in the Premier League and in the second the experience of Europe. We gave young players big roles and have not invested money but managed assets. We were very unfairly stopped from being in the League Cup final and that never stopped us wanting to come to Wembley. There are signs in the three years I could have earned the opportunity to drive the club forward and I am sure we can fulfil our expectations. I am very much attached to it.”

Martínez said that with the backing of Moshiri he will be able to take the club to heights not reached for years. “The introduction of the new shareholder brings a different approach to the new squad. We have the finances to compete with anyone within the fair play rules. That can only be a help. I see it no other way.

“The difficulty is building a squad without the money other teams have while they are fighting for the same aims you have. The arrival of the new shareholder is terrific, positive news for the future and helps you build squads.

“Clearly, at the end of the season we will need to make big moves and make sure we start the season with a strong team that is ready to fight and play the way we have to play. [Moshiri’s] vision is to become a winning team and bring Everton to where we all want it. That goes into the footballing style. It is a shared vision.” Asked how certain he was that he would still be Everton’s manager come the summer, Martínez replied: “You’re asking the wrong man.”

The Spaniard said he took heart from the experiences of Everton’s two-time title-winning manager, the late Howard Kendall, and also from the team’s second-half improvement at Wembley, which might not have been fruitless if Romelu Lukaku had not had a penalty saved by David de Gea before Chris Smalling equalised with an own goal and Anthony Martial inflicted a killer blow in stoppage time.

“I draw inspiration from big, big figures from our football club – and no one more than Howard Kendall, who always said as a football club we react in the best possible way,” Martínez said, determined to remain positive. “Facing adversity [against United] our second‑half performance is exactly that. It was as dominant as you could see in a semi-final against a team like Manchester United.

“Without being at our best we could not get into the rhythm in the first half and we showed incredible maturity and mental strength to dig in. The second half is us – confidence, belief and fast football with attacking threat. We missed a penalty and it never affected us. Conceding in injury time is a major blow that we did not deserve. I was pleased the players represented our football club in a way we know they can in the second half. They enjoyed their football.”
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Reading Martinez' statement disgusts a worries me in equal amounts. Speaking after a defeat to start quoting Howard Kendall to curry favour is low in my opinion.
To say we got into our stride in the second half is a joke, we were in our stride in the first half, that is how we play under Martinez, the second half performance was out of character for a Martinez team. He is being dishonest.
All the talk about the future is concerning, has he been given some assurances.
I looked at the site this morning in the hope he was sacked, I knew it was too early but you can but hope. Then a thought entered my head, the board won't sack him until the end of the season because if they do and the team experiences a bounce and starts winning fans will turn on the board on the grounds that if they had sacked him earlier we would have bounced sooner and still be in the cup. Fans would have another reason to doubt the board. Hope I'm wrong and they have already met and talked to Unsworth and Sheedy to take over. Announcement before lunch. Hopefully.
 

The Esk said:
All good points mate, personally Martinez is now damaging himself with these comments, it's unprofessional and undignified. It certainly will not help his cause at Board and shareholder levels, nor with players and fans.
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His ramblings about mediocrity under Moyes will surely not have gone down well with BK, and his barmpot statement about not being financially backed should surely also have raised the hackles on BKs' neck.

BK is ruthless in the theatre world - time for the gloves to come off Bill, you wouldn't let an actor or director decry you in the way this oaf is doing in a witless attempt at self-preservation.

Maybe Mr.Moshiri is deferring the axing decision to BK in the very short term while he continues to woo/coax/court and cajole the new manager.

One more idiotic rambling from Martinez will, I think, see the axe fall.
 
The media encourage mediocrity, it's as if they don't want teams like Everton challenging the status quo and they put a positive spin on an awful situation and still link us with everybody elses cast offs and small time managers. We need to demand the club changes this, this is what fans of successful teams do, it will happen.
 

The latest comments from the manager just strike me as desperate attempts to save his job. He says we are close to winning trophies, yet has had two great oppertunities to win one this season and blown both of them. The funny thing here is that we would be sat here with a trophy already in the cabinet if we had won the league cup and just not conceded 3 goals in the second leg. This would have made his position right now a lot more comfortable as the poor league form would have been written off by quite a few fans on the basis of the cup in the cabinet. but the fact remains we haven't won a trophy and come next season, we go back to 63 teams ahead of us again before we win the next, hardly a forgone conclusion we will replicate the cup runs.

We all know he is going so this is not a rant at the fact he isn't sacked by any means. I just think that these comments are just wildly destroying any remaining ground he has to stand on at the club, especially ahead of 4 games that could potentially go well, or badly. Consdering the 4 games remaining, do you expect to beat bournemouth off the back off 2 much bigger games going wrong? Norwich and sunderland fighting for survival so are certainly not going to be the same teams we faced back in november. finally Leiscter, who could well be winning the league when we play them, again no chance of expecting a result there unless they have somehow lost the title by then.

i highlight the fixtures for a specific reason, not winning them increases the hostility of the fans towards the club. We come away defeated on saturday and it will be hostile atmospheres from that point on, and the club cannot then sack martinez with only 3 games remaining so they have to soldier on, then struggle vs the relegation teams and it grows and grows. Its actually terrible running of the club to even put the team in that position, we can accept losing every game now on the basis of having no manager here, but by having one who has thrown away every possible chance he has been given and still has air time to spout more nonsense to the press is pretty much insulting the fans at that point.
 
mikeh72 said:
This fella winning the FA Cup with Wigan was absolutely the worst thing that could have happened to us and football in general. He should be rotting in the lower leagues with the Simon Graysons and Phil Browns of the world
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If he hadnt fluked that FA cup, which lets face it City should have won by a country mile, hed never have got the Everton job
Lets redress this ridiculous decision and let him try and get some championship side into the CL
 
Chill out... It will happen.The legal teams will be working on it .Bill cannot say he will be sacked as Roberto will be able to use it to claim more dosh. Once they agree how much he is getting they will tell us and we can all party.

Well that is what I think any way
 
Saint Domingo said:
Not sure why the board would subject him and the players to what they are probably going to receive at Goodison on Saturday from the fans.
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This, if Bill thinks he is such a good bloke then why put Roberto into that position. You do your friends favours in situations like that and stopping him going out there by relieving him of his duties is the kind thing to do.
 

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