Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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What worries me is that even when we replace Martinez, next season will be an underwhelming one because our players are used to being so unfit.

It will take more than one preseason to get them up to speed. We won't see a recovery from this nonsense for a couple of years.
 

Thing is in the grand scheme of things look at United running at us in the first half. Both of them running either side of the defence. Look at what they were facing, a left back with no left mid to cover him and a right back who is out of position.

Then second half once we lifted the spirit we actually found out that we could actually threaten them, but sadly as always no tactical change, winger for winger and no other positive change towards the end so same players running at the United defence all game pretty much.

Luakaku had an off day sure, but I ask you this, where was his replacement? United had 3 strikers on the pitch, we had one and when they weren't scoring we had noone else to come in. You wonder why we aren't successful? Try there, even bloody Aston villa have more than one striker to play.
 
That performance today was the absolute epitome of Everton this season, and Martinez's tenure as a whole.

He himself called it a defining week, and unfortunately we've failed spectacularly.

I personally don't think he's getting sacked before the end of the season, but this week has to have been the final nail. I fully expect him to leave by mutual consent a day or so after the Norwich game.

Also just one final point, we have 4 league games to go, and we're not mathematically safe from relegation. Martinez just cannot claim we have progressed under his tenure. :bye:
 

He's a really forked-tongued rhetorician; like Obama level BS that you almost believe because its full of NLP techniques to reframe the situation and find positive spin. Really tricky buggers these types- lots of them in politics/corporate etc. By the time they've finished speaking you forget what you felt before. Always go back to first principles and facts. Don't get drawn in. These types always know how to make everything look nice on the surface; but footballs not skin deep, young blokes need something real in a manager to motivate them.
 

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