Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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The team has a goalscorer worth whatever he leaves for this summer. The team has stopped playing for the manager, we struggle to actually win games and teams who used to be in our shadow are looking down on us now and laughing.

Give him another year and we will be going down under him, with a queue out the door of the dressing room to get away from that.

Things is, not my choosing, i have thousands upon thousands who share the same view

That you may have.

It doesn't mean that it is right or that the billionaire owner of Everton has to be held to ransom.

He will make a decision when he wishes to and will not be rushed by you or anyone else into one. Unless circumstances compel him to. Which given we will not be relegated. Means he does not have to.

Think you have your timescales all wrong mate.
 
I'm behind him until the summer.

Then will support Moshiri in whatever he thinks is right for EFC.

I would caution against certain managerial candidate shouts I see on here. Which I think are ludicrous.

I would also caution Moshiri not to over spend in the summer. Spend yes. But let us spend wisely and avoid wasting money.

@The Esk and @Neiler knows my thoughts. I'm an 'idealogue' only in so far as the GOOD running of the club. I'm an Evertonian. First foremost.

We all are on here!. However to say give him until summer does not do it for me.

I wonder if this had been like the last season with Wigan would you still be saying the same if we were in a relegation fighht?

That is what frightens me next season.
 

While the bleach taps are on full after reading that, there's no way they'd say anything different.

Can you imagine if they said "yes, we're going to sack him," to a couple of blokes on a train, and that's how it came out?

Also, I'd be interested to hear who said that. My guess is Bill, and we all know his thoughts on Martinez.
 

While the bleach taps are on full after reading that, there's no way they'd say anything different.

Can you imagine if they said "yes, we're going to sack him," to a couple of blokes on a train, and that's how it came out?

Also, I'd be interested to hear who said that. My guess is Bill, and we all know his thoughts on Martinez.
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Bit of a tip to everyone.

@The Esk knows this.

A business man like Moshiri.

Makes decisions at his choosing.

You avoid 'crises management' decisions or continual short term decisions as they inevitably are poor decisions in the longer term. Crises are actual crises not manufactured ones.

The fact Moshiri has done nothing yet. Is all the signs of an excellent proxy-chairman.

He's not Mike Ashley. Or Lerner. He's letting things play out. Until he he need do something. When he plans to do something.

This is the experience he has from being a billionaire running multi million pound companies and lots of them.
 


If there is any legitimacy in this, we are in serious, serious trouble.

Kenwright and Moshri obviously are not considering what has happened to the side over the last 20 months, and I can only imagine it is Bill's sentiment keeping the man in a job and Moshri giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Hopefully it's a load of smokescreen guff and he is sacked today, but looking like he won't be.

If this is true though I am really concerned about matters on the pitch for the foreseeable future.

Martinez is an embarrassment to the club, him and his second rate back room staff need to go now.
 

That you may have.

It doesn't mean that it is right or that the billionaire owner of Everton has to be held to ransom.

He will make a decision when he wishes to and will not be rushed by you or anyone else into one. Unless circumstances compel him to. Which given we will not be relegated. Means he does not have to.

Think you have your timescales all wrong mate.
So when a fan Base of a club all want him out due to poor form you don't think anyone high up at the club will listen to them? They aren't grumbling for no reason, hell we didn't do it for 11 years under the previous manager.

Take away any investment as well, great give the guy 60 million to spend to make the team great. One key player us leaving already, other very talented players are underperforming and we have just recently spent 13 million on a player who can't even make the pitch when academy players are brought on. So from a intelligent point of view, why would anyone then give him more money in a struggling team if he isn't even playing his relatively big investment when struggling to win right now?

And as for timescales and when to act, Just look accross the park. They sacked their under performing manager because they had a chance to bring in a top manager instead, and had a window to do that in, otherwise he would have gone elsewhere. Right now we are bottom half of the table team, the window is this summer, to attract a better manager and be able to back them at the same time. Come October or December time if things aren't better then these managers won't look twice at us, why would they? We would be on level parring with West Brom at that point if we aren't already. And could you see West Brom bringing in a good coach considering they have Tony pulls right now?
 
We all are on here!. However to say give him until summer does not do it for me.

I wonder if this had been like the last season with Wigan would you still be saying the same if we were in a relegation fighht?

That is what frightens me next season.

That's why Moshiri is a billionaire mate and your not.

Whether it does it for you is irrelevant.

Moshiri has to consider the bigger picture which he is. Of when he needs to make decisions.
 
potentially Saturday,although no evertonian surely would wish that,if a postive result end of season I reckon mate.


If they fire him after a defeat on Saturday they should hang their heads in shame.

Sack him now or keep him......no point acting after the damage is done.

It will be Pontious Pilatesque.

But if I leave Wembley next week after watching Everton sleep walk out of the Cup, as I am resigned to already quite frankly,I will be scathing of the board.

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So when a fan Base of a club all want him out due to poor form you don't think anyone high up at the club will listen to them? They aren't grumbling for no reason, hell we didn't do it for 11 years under the previous manager.

Take away any investment as well, great give the guy 60 million to spend to make the team great. One key player us leaving already, other very talented players are underperforming and we have just recently spent 13 million on a player who can't even make the pitch when academy players are brought on. So from a intelligent point of view, why would anyone then give him more money in a struggling team if he isn't even playing his relatively big investment when struggling to win right now?

And as for timescales and when to act, Just look accross the park. They sacked their under performing manager because they had a chance to bring in a top manager instead, and had a window to do that in, otherwise he would have gone elsewhere. Right now we are bottom half of the table team, the window is this summer, to attract a better manager and be able to back them at the same time. Come October or December time if things aren't better then these managers won't look twice at us, why would they? We would be on level parring with West Brom at that point if we aren't already. And could you see West Brom bringing in a good coach considering they have Tony pulls right now?

I'm telling you.

This is the risk we - or you in particular - run of making the club 'unmanageable'

Moshiri isn't going to play that game. He'll make a decision when he wants/needs to.

All things point to the summer.
 
That's why Moshiri is a billionaire mate and your not.

Whether it does it for you is irrelevant.

Moshiri has to consider the bigger picture which he is. Of when he needs to make decisions.

Is that also why he left Arsenal - because no one wanted to listen to him?
 

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