Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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No mate, they couldn't.
Moshiri needs less than 50 shares voted in his favour to guarantee to win a majority. Trust me on this, he has those votes in the bag if he needs them.

Why has he bought such a specific stake then? Who is going to side with him rather than voting with Bill?
 
He will only take control if he finds willing sellers. He's on probation until the the old guard decide that he's the right custodian for the club.

If it was for any other reason he could have bought a greater or a lesser stake.

Sorry mate but that's not the reason he initally "only" bought 49.9%. He has an agreement to acquire more shares already.
 

Had a great conversation with a Utd buddy of mine who was at the game yesterday. Things that stood out for me was loads of Utd fans spent majority of time watching cricket final on on the phone such was the Boring nature of the match. He said Everton players looked programmed and disinterested, Barkley looked a class act but when faced with space his first instinct is to play the ball backwards, they look like a team totally overcoached who retain possession well all very pretty but are resorted to hitting balls into the feet of Lukaku who is totally isolated. Players arguing McCarthy and Stones having pops at Lukaku and Coleman and Deulofeu blatantly ignoring Martinez when he was trying to shout out orders. The body language of the players was poor and he felt that they were just going through the motions, on paper he said he DeGea, Blind, Martial, Smalling and Mata would be the only players he reckons would get into Everton squad.

Fairly depressing that we are so far behind them when he said it's the worse Utd team he can remember.

Nothing that we probably didn't know but to hear it from an opposing supporter rammed it home.

Interesting to get an outside view. He can keep blind though.
 

I'm sure that none of us really knows the ins and outs of this because it wouldn't be publicly disclosed. According to Toffeeweb...

Moshiri 17,465 (49.9%)
Kenwright 4256
Woods 3116
Grantchester 2773
Carter 714
Other 6676
Total 35,000

Surely keeping Moshiri in the minority is a safety mechanism for Bill and the club though? It would make no sense if Moshiri could swing any decision by asking other minority shareholders to vote in his favour.

And how would it benefit Moshiri to be in the minority on major issues like debts and stadia? He'd still have a massive liability and less influence.
 
Depends on the articles, to be honest, I'm not sure off-hand, but the original point was about votes, if you have more than 50% of the votes either in your hand, or up your sleeve, you're in effective control.

I think Bill is too wiley to leave himself in a position where he's only getting half the cash upfront AND it only takes a couple of disgruntled shareholders to vote against him for him to have lost control of the club.

Not that I think that Moshiri would have anything underhand up his sleeve.
 
He did not want to trigger "change of ownership" clauses in the loan agreements until the stadium situation is resolved.

I'd have thought that, if he wanted to buy the club outright he'd settle the loans. What's £31.3m to a billionaire?

What's your source?
 

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