Roberto Martinez discussion

[ianefc]

This forum become a joke. Can't stand it anymore. Just whine whine whine whine.

This post comes across a bit whiny TBH. Which is rather ironic given the nature of the message.

 

[Chang Elephant]

Team management of a Spanish chimpanzee, two holding midfielders against WBA, Cleverley (decent for keeping it tight in away games) on the wing ahead of Mirrallas. That's before the dug addled substitutions of Kone and Osman.

 

[MartSlinger]

This forum become a joke. Can't stand it anymore. Just whine whine whine whine.

I know yeah, lets not moan about being beaten by the worst team ive seen at Goodison ever.

 

[Igrok]

Amazing how quickly he dismantled Goodison fortress and turned the crowd hostile...simply phenomenal

 

[Grfirestorm]

Just seen MOTD, nobody on the post again, last year when they asked Baines he said it was up to the team to decide marking at corners but we keep screwing up. 1 corner against - 1 goal conceded from it, Brom had players on the line and cleared the ball, we just watch them go in. It's not bad luck when you have the worst home defense in Europe. It's not bad luck when you play one of the worst strikers in the premier league as a winger instead of someone who was one of the leading wingers or take off one of the best players on the pitch.

 

[BigDuncis Blue]

Winning isn't everything to me in football. Strange as it sounds when we lose now I don't feel anger, I've still enjoyed watching us. Maybe I'm just getting older.

Watching us get beat 2-0 at Bolton under moyes, without even passing the ball to each other used to leave me suicidal for a week

Surely its got be about winning trrophies and all that brings, going to Wembley etc...seeing our club suceed. The question for me is, is RM the person to do this. Understand why some think he is, for me the naswer is no

These truly are exciting times to be an Evertonian.10th place in the league on 35 points with a squad that should have been up there competing with Leicester and Spurs for the title never mind actually challenging for a champions league place.Oh the excitement of it all.Of course the pro Martinez crew are still talking about excuses and talking about corners being turned and all that.Yeah yeah whatever.It seems to me that Everton at the moment both manager and players and certain fans is just empty and cheap talk.The great Everton squads of the 60's and 80's did their talking where it actually mattered on the pitch.I think it's fair to say that talking into account that we finished 11th last season and failed to make a credible attempt at qualifying for the top 4 that our manager and players keep going on about this season that we have failed in the league for two seasons in a row.Just like we failed in Kiev last year and the Etihad a few weeks ago. Oh dear im going to be called a hater, keyboard assassin and a kopite provocateur from the pro Martinez crew for this but if that's the price for having an opinion i'll take it.

Great post....This sums it up....'The great Everton squads of the 60's and 80's did their talking where it actually mattered on the pitch'

 

[By god I'm blue]

Woken up this morning with no frustration due to yesterday's defeat, it's gone now, nothing we can do about it, no point in crying about it.

Yesterday confirmed a few things for me though.

1. Some people just won't accept the shocking run of results at home as cause for alarm and when you hit them with these facts just keep spouting the same drivel that we are close to something special despite us looking anything but.
2. Along with the base and foundation he inherited from Moyes, he has actually got the best squad of players at his disposal we have seen at GP for years, he just doesn't know what to do with them.
3.as many pointed out yesterday, he has no idea how to play a different way and for the second season running has been outwitted at GP by Tony Pulis, a man many openly take the Micky out of on here.
4. Barring an FA cup win, the season is a massive flop now and basically a failure. The only thing glossing over his appalling win rate this season is the unpredictability of the PL.
5. The case made for not changing now for many is something ridiculous along the lines of "we are Everton, not Newcastle we don't behave that way", quite pathetic really, one managerial dismissal wouldn't automatically turn us into a revolving door club overnight, an absolutely ridiculous argument for anybody to put forward for not changing him now. In fact, a new manager may actually get a tune out of these players on a more consistent basis.

We probably won't get rid of him though, so we are probably stuck with him and you never know, he may just have a Kevin Brock moment which turns our fortunes. Other than that, he is looking like a one trick pony and I would prefer a more open minded and expansive manager who knows how to attack, defend and as Lukaku openly stated, has a bit of nous of game management.

 

[lancs blue]

When do the away season tickets go on sale

 

[silent bob]

Yesterday was a bad day for the Cult. No doubt about that.

Yesterday was a bad day for EVERYONE.

 

[Chang Elephant]

It's not bad luck when you play one of the worst strikers in the premier league as a winger instead of someone who was one of the leading wingers or take off one of the best players on the pitch

The Cult won't like this

 

[ianefc]

Yesterday was a bad day for EVERYONE.

Goes without saying Bob. But you've said it now.

 

[silent bob]

Goes without saying Bob. But you've said it now.

I find it comforting to sometimes state the obvious.

 

[ianefc]

I find it comforting to sometimes state the obvious.

You can go a long way with that sort of outlook.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

All these "if we'd have won we'd be 'x' points off 'x position'" comments as a defence for the manager; it doesn't matter where we'd be with a win yesterday because we didn't win!

We were desperately unlucky yesterday but the manager's substitutions were atrocious.

I often hear these comments as an attack on the manager too. Irrelevant as you say.

Also, again as you rightly say, the subs were atrocious, because the result was we played worse. However most people moaned whenever Naismith was brought on. Except against Chelsea. And earlier in the season most on here were convinced that Lukaku definitely performs better with Kone in the side. It's possible that Martinez was thinking the same. Especially considering we were creating chances

Got no defence for Osman coming on like.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Moyes on goals on Sunday now interesting to see what he says about everton