Latest Takeover Rumour. The Moores / Noell one

[efc.1878]

People saying if we get a new stadium we're not going to have money to spend on the team.

Honestly don't think we need a massive budget for the team, look at Leicester?! They haven't spent a Champions League budget and they've just beaten both Liverpool and City at the Etihad who have spent hundreds of millions on players. We do need a few players to 'push on' but don't need the massive budget that most people think. New stadium/redevelop to Old Lady needs to happen sooner rather than later.

 

[DanEFC123]

Not 100% sure of his reasons. Just loves Goodison essentially I think. It's Everton to him.

That what my mates are like, never really give an reason why they want to stay, just a shake of the head and "it wont be the same". i couldnt see a how any of it would be a problem. the amount of money we are losing out to private car parks annoys me, id rather spend a tenner and park by the stadium than pay a fiver and walk 20 mins to walton hall park

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

I don't want to leave GOODISON...and I don't particularly want the club taken over by 'business minded American sports fans' either.

But the choice is minimal, if we don't move with the times; we stand still...and in the grand scheme of things we've been standing still for a very long time now, to the point where if things stay as they are then further down the line could see awful times indeed.

It's funny though, we've been crying out for takeover, we now teeter on the brink and some seem MASSIVELY against it. Whatever is said about the USA contingent you have to look at the fact that they're good at what they do and they get things done. Can we say the same about the current board, BILL included? The answer, whether you're a fan of BK's or not, is a resounding NO...

If we weren't apprehensive then that'd be weird. But being apprehensive is good, shows we care. The trick is now - (assuming all goes through, which I'm still in two minds about whether it will or not like) - is to embrace it, a new start, all that. I'm even willing to put my lack of faith in the manager on the backburner for a while just to soak up the positivity because, let's be honest, there's not been a whole load of that over the years eh...

 

[bullensboy]

Does Roberto normally do his press conference for the weekend on a Thursday ? For a home game especially its normally a Friday isnt it...?


Get the tressle table ready, the Americans will be introduced tomorrow !!

 

[billytoffee]

I think some people are simply scared of change and like the routine and order they have in their lives. The most vociferous objectors to a move will likely be those that park in the same place every week after nipping to the same shop/pub/chippie for whatever floats their prematch boat, programme from the same bloke on the same street corner etc etc..........

They will simply need to open thier eyes, allow some reasoned and logical debate to enter thier minds, embrace the change and try a new routine.

 

[ste d' indica]

It is very difficult to set priorities for new owners without knowing the availability of capital after acquisition.

If they are just acquiring the majority holding I would imagine a new stadium or redevelopment of Goodison will be lower down on their list of immediate requirements. The focus will be much more likely to be on increasing sponsorship and commercial revenues away from Goodison.

If however there is a total takeover then assuming the capital is available a stadium solution becomes much more do-able and a higher priority.

Regardless of the nature of the takeover, in my opinion the first task is to prioritise on field matters, retaining the key young players and providing funding for the glaring weaknesses in our squad for this summer.

Esk, general business question. (big) If the takeover isn't leveraged, how would the new owners be likely to approach current debt? Is it normal practice for more solvent owners to pay it off and thereby reduce long term interest, or are they more likely to let it roll under the current structure? I realise there may be penalties and so on for early settlement.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

No we aren't . But we still have to try and bridge that gap .

Totally agree - and I wasn't being sarky BTW - but we're just not gonna compete on that level corporate wise. It's weird at the moment though, I've done the 'directors' box stuff numerous times (as a guest like, not paid for it) and - although really nice like - it's tiny, the staff are ace, the food's good, all that...but there's literally nothing of it as a lounge. It's dated. We need a re-vamp on all of that side of things. As I've mentioned before and have seen posted before...people have tried to buy merch days after release and there's been none available and no dates for re-stock. We went through a spate of NOT selling baby-gear for which there's a big market. We're EVERTON though and we've always missed the boat on this sort of stuff. I've often felt like there's someone in marketing etc who one day goes 'OH YEAH....WE NEED TO...(whatever)' And that's great, except it's generally about 16 months after it should have been done...

It's something we need to get better at.

 

[The Esk]

Esk, general business question. (big) If the takeover isn't leveraged, how would the new owners be likely to approach current debt? Is it normal practice for more solvent owners to pay it off and thereby reduce long term interest, or are they more likely to let it roll under the current structure? I realise there may be penalties and so on for early settlement.

Good question mate.

I would imagine that the least any new owner would want is to restructure the debt on more favourable terms.

However my own opinion would be that I would pay off the debt immediately assuming the capital was available. This then gives me a completely clean company from which I can execute my own strategies be that a new stadium, redevelopment, increase in commercial and sponsorship revenues etc etc.

 

[Thuck ma Baws]

Does Roberto normally do his press conference for the weekend on a Thursday ? For a home game especially its normally a Friday isnt it...?


Get the tressle table ready, the Americans will be introduced tomorrow !!

It's always on a Thursday.

 

[AndyC]

I walk up Gwladys Street before every home game and even at 59 years of age, as I turn in and see the stands I still get that 'feeling' that it's 'home'. My daughter worked at Goodison for over six years and she said exactly the same, that every morning as she turned into GS and then drove down past the Main Stand, it just felt right.

Then we went to the Emirates and the approach to the stadium felt like the scene in Gladiator when Maximus first sets eyes on the Colloseum - and we both felt like "wow, can't wait to see what this looks like from the inside". And we weren't disappointed.

Most, not all, but most of the new stadia in the UK are brilliant for sight lines, comfort, access, corporate areas, merchandise/food/beverage areas etc but many still feel soulless.
The Etihad is a plush morgue and that description was given me by a guy who is a steward there !

I think most Evertonians would prefer GP to be remodelled and if that could be done over say a 4-5 year period and take the capacity to say 48,000, that would be my personal preference.

If this takeover is concluded, we'll all just have to wait and see what the new regime has in mind, as I'd be amazed if part of the due diligence period has not included reviewing previous new stadia/GP remodelling proposals. There cannot surely be any chance that potential new ownership/investors would get involved without clearly understanding that the stadium issue is of vital importance for the future.

 

[The Esk]

I walk up Gwladys Street before every home game and even at 59 years of age, as I turn in and see the stands I still get that 'feeling' that it's 'home'. My daughter worked at Goodison for over six years and she said exactly the same, that every morning as she turned into GS and then drove down past the Main Stand, it just felt right.

Well said, totally agree

 

[blueblue]

People saying if we get a new stadium we're not going to have money to spend on the team.

Honestly don't think we need a massive budget for the team, look at Leicester?! They haven't spent a Champions League budget and they've just beaten both Liverpool and City at the Etihad who have spent hundreds of millions on players. We do need a few players to 'push on' but don't need the massive budget that most people think. New stadium/redevelop to Old Lady needs to happen sooner rather than later.

The real test for Leicester comes next season , not this one.
I don't believe they are going to be close to winning the league at the end and next season they have to do it all over again. I think they will be lucky to be midtable next season.
I am not saying this in a mean spirited way.I think that what they are doing is wonderful for football , it is bringing a freshness to the game , a hope that maybe there is a way to succeed without pots of money. But , I look at their players and even still I would not want any more than two or three at Everton.
The hype has cranked up a notch or two in the last week from the media and that will intensify with every passing game. Expectations will increase further, their crowd will get ever more anxious, every mistake will be a calamity.
In a tight race for the title, the test is all about the last half a dozen games...just ask Liverpool.

 

[blueblue]

I walk up Gwladys Street before every home game and even at 59 years of age, as I turn in and see the stands I still get that 'feeling' that it's 'home'. My daughter worked at Goodison for over six years and she said exactly the same, that every morning as she turned into GS and then drove down past the Main Stand, it just felt right.

Then we went to the Emirates and the approach to the stadium felt like the scene in Gladiator when Maximus first sets eyes on the Colloseum - and we both felt like "wow, can't wait to see what this looks like from the inside". And we weren't disappointed.

Most, not all, but most of the new stadia in the UK are brilliant for sight lines, comfort, access, corporate areas, merchandise/food/beverage areas etc but many still feel soulless.
The Etihad is a plush morgue and that description was given me by a guy who is a steward there !

I think most Evertonians would prefer GP to be remodelled and if that could be done over say a 4-5 year period and take the capacity to say 48,000, that would be my personal preference.

If this takeover is concluded, we'll all just have to wait and see what the new regime has in mind, as I'd be amazed if part of the due diligence period has not included reviewing previous new stadia/GP remodelling proposals. There cannot surely be any chance that potential new ownership/investors would get involved without clearly understanding that the stadium issue is of vital importance for the future.

Everton would have moved to a new stadium fifteen years ago if they could, if finances and opportunities had allowed.

I think that if Bill Kenwright thought the club could prosper at Everton he would never sell.
Everything these new buyers will hear from management at Everton will revolve around the revamp of Goodison not being feasible and the need to move to a new ground imperative. I assume they will have been given access to the various reports on the matter over the years.
I still think that when the new owners have completed their research, and they are right to do so, the conclusion will be the same.

 

[Rupert's Tower]

So fans now expect these new owners to renovate Goodison versus build a purpose build stadium elsewhere?

Do people even know how much more complicated that would be, in addition to the costs involved?

It can't even be done in the short term btw, Everton would have to buy up a bunch of land they don't currently own, in addition to all those houses behind the Gwladys Street and on Goodison Road which would take years to obtain. You can't just force people out of their homes, not for a private project which Goodison is. Currently, the only renovation you realistically could do is build another tier on the Park End which should've been done ages ago

 

[ijjysmith]

So fans now expect these new owners to renovate Goodison versus build a purpose build stadium elsewhere?

Do people even know how much more complicated that would be, in addition to the costs involved?

It can't even be done in the short term btw, Everton would have to buy up a bunch of land they don't currently own, in addition to all those houses behind the Gwladys Street and on Goodison Road which would take years to obtain. You can't just force people out of their homes, not for a private project which Goodison is. Currently, the only renovation you realistically could do is build another tier on the park end which should've been done ages ago

I don't think the fans 'expect' anything to be honest mate.