Tim Howard

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It's not so much defending him as trying to make people realize that it is in fact possible to have some other goalkeeper come in and be worse. One of my biggest worries about Everton going forward is that Martinez starts believing that Tim Howard is as bad as some of our supporters make out and decides to bring in someone like Marshall or Begovic on the cheap to replace him. Which would most likely leave us worse off than we were before, especially if we keep defending the same way we have been this season.

I think @zirc is right; we need a keeper suited for the style we're playing. Just grabbing the first guy who becomes available isn't going to cut it.

Begovic on the cheap would light up my world. Absolutely levels and levels above above Howard the coward
 
In my eyes Howard never been great. Man u got shut because he makes mistakes, the same mistakes he makes years later. His decision making is poor.
Martinez biggest mistake here so far was giving him a new 5 year deal, his second mistake is continuing to play him. OK he wants to show the lads in the dressing room that he doesn't drop players because the fans want him dropped but he making mistakes all the time now. This will cost Martinez the fans supprt. If he wants to be a great manager then he needs to learn new traits
Ruthless and quick decision making.
Get rid Martinez because every mistake he makes, eyes will be on Martinez for playing him.
 

It's not so much defending him as trying to make people realize that it is in fact possible to have some other goalkeeper come in and be worse. One of my biggest worries about Everton going forward is that Martinez starts believing that Tim Howard is as bad as some of our supporters make out and decides to bring in someone like Marshall or Begovic on the cheap to replace him. Which would most likely leave us worse off than we were before, especially if we keep defending the same way we have been this season.

I think @zirc is right; we need a keeper suited for the style we're playing. Just grabbing the first guy who becomes available isn't going to cut it.

Neither of those goalkeepers would do worse than Howard. Sorry, that's just the top and bottom of it (not saying I want them btw)
 

If you look at Sunderland they have sold Pantillimon and brought back Jordan Pickford from Preston loan to come in as 1st choice. Allardyce is no fool and plays to win though always goes for experience in his teams so its noteworty that he would start a 21 year old keeper. Hes the current starting England u21 keeper and the u19 keeper is Freddie Woodman whose dad i think used to play for Crystal Palace.

We dont seem to have any young keepers in the youth sides who are highly rated so it would make sense for us to go and buy someone elses just like Stoke buying Butland and loaning him out until he was ready.

If we want to go for a "sure thing" then we go for Butland. The next best idea is to go for Pickford as Sunderland will have given him half a season as starter before the summer.

Options for me are:

A-- Sign a 1st choice experienced keeper and also Woodman or similar to loan out. Keeping robles on the bench during this time until they are ready.

B-- Sign a young keeper like Pickford,Horn,Scuffet etc and have them for 15 years.

C--Go all out for Butland who is both experienced and young.

The lowest risk would be Butland and next lowest would be a Pickford type depending on how he does this season as both currently play in the league.

No way should we go for Marshall or similar for such a key position. Other than Martyn weve only had Southall so we are traditionally quite poor in this position...that needs to change.
Butland no chance 20- 30 million at least when DM could have signed him for 3 million!
 

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