Post Stoke game, Stick or Twist?

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ToffeeTim said:
We have no option but to stick with him but I certainly see no defensive improvement on the horizon. Not while we play 5 players who don't track or even seem to be encouraged to try helping the defense
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It will never be an ideal time to sack a manager, but how long can we risk the possibility of dragging us further down? I think he has to go at the end of the season if he can't turn this round in the next 19 matches.
 
Stan Lee Park said:
It will never be an ideal time to sack a manager, but how long can we risk the possibility of dragging us further down? I think he has to go at the end of the season if he can't turn this round in the next 19 matches.
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I would bite the bullet now before we go backwards even more.
He is in is 3rd season and we are going the wrong way
 

Bad defensively we may be but.... with correct refereeing we would have won 4-2

Here's how:

Goal 3: Walters came back from an offside position and challenges Howard before the ball is slammed in - that's clearly active - disallowed goal
Goal 4: We don't really need to discuss this again do we?

Penalty to Everton: Well more of a shout than their penalty.
 
ToffeeDan said:
Bad defensively we may be but.... with correct refereeing we would have won 4-2

Here's how:

Goal 3: Walters came back from an offside position and challenges Howard before the ball is slammed in - that's clearly active - disallowed goal
Goal 4: We don't really need to discuss this again do we?

Penalty to Everton: Well more of a shout than their penalty.
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thing is mate, it's easy to do this after the game. But what about the three at Bournemouth? The three at Leicester? The amount of times we have to score just to level a game? The amount of goals that are conceded in the same way most weeks? (stretching back to brom/liverpool/arsenal) what about the fact we have a striker who is easily on course to score 25 goals this season at least, not far off 20 already? We have a midfielder who can create chances with a bit of magic? A seasoned veteran in midfield? nearly all of our first choice back 5?
 
Stay!

You wanna know why?

Good because I will tell u.

Look at his first season, Amazing.
His Second Season, Awful.
Third Season, Meh.

He needs more time, I cant remember and doubt I was born like but didn't moyes have a poor start and we gave him time.

If this take over happens he has more money to improve his squad.

It's all about how much time we give him. I hope he stays for ages.

But if he does stay he is gonna have to start winning games, cups and Top 4 position.
 

Moyes' first three full seasons, according to Wikipedia, we finished 7th, then 17th, then 4th. Also, I thought the squad we had when he first came here was...well, not as good as the current onE?
 
Ashtonian said:
thing is mate, it's easy to do this after the game. But what about the three at Bournemouth? The three at Leicester? The amount of times we have to score just to level a game? The amount of goals that are conceded in the same way most weeks? (stretching back to brom/liverpool/arsenal) what about the fact we have a striker who is easily on course to score 25 goals this season at least, not far off 20 already? We have a midfielder who can create chances with a bit of magic? A seasoned veteran in midfield? nearly all of our first choice back 5?
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Good points.
 
Dymak said:
Moyes was operating under far more difficult conditions than Martinez has been. No doubt about it.
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Difficult financial budget but the bottom half of the league was much less competitive than it is now, look at who palace and west Brom had in their sides 10 years ago!!

Not to undermine moyes, who I really rate, but the Pl has changed so much in even the last 5 years
 

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