Roberto Martinez discussion

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Best part of this thread today was when the fume merchants surged towards it before the game was even over and was repelled far too easy.

I was expecting something a lil mo fierce.


Fume is at its most dense in the first hour or so after a match. It dissipates into nothing soon after and all the Plotters just feel embarrassed, like they went on a mad one and woke up in the jizzpool of a male prozzer.
 
I have used Einstein 's theory of insanity here before.....when something is not working but one persists in doing the same expecting a different outcome.

Our Defending of corners and set pieces and hopeless attacking at corners and frees never changes. He is just not doing enough preparation to make this change.
 

Lukaku scores a sitter and then scores the free ball in the box or Baines scores with the follow up and we're 3-0 up before half time and the match is over. Poor from set pieces but a large part of that goes to the players. Likely to be 6 points off 5th which under Moyes would have been considered a great place to finish.

The Martinez out shouts are embarrassing and anybody posting them should be fired out of a cannon.
 
Fume is at its most dense in the first hour or so after a match. It dissipates into nothing soon after and all the Plotters just feel embarrassed, like they went on a mad one and woke up in the jizzpool of a male prozzer.

being apathetic is the only way to be fed up as an 'good' everton fan?
 
It's not apathy mate. The results aren't happening, but the football is. We were crap last season, even I had some doubts at points about our direction, but we've been class the last few games and the fume is disproportionate.

Class? We've been decent going forward at times but defensively as a team we're miles away from class.

If we lose the ball it nearly always results in a chance for them opposition. We must give away more chances than anyone. Good chances as well, Jerome missed an open goal and overall Norwich had the better actual chances in the game today.

I think people have been so starved of anything resembling football under Moyes that they're forgetting football isnt solely about everyone bombing on. A good football side gets the balance right. Everton are miles away from that point at the minute and I worry that anminjurymto Lukaku would see us really struggle to win games.
 
It's not apathy mate. The results aren't happening, but the football is. We were crap last season, even I had some doubts at points about our direction, but we've been class the last few games and the fume is disproportionate.
From my experience football is a team game consisting of eleven player's. Therefore you can only consider that we have been class when all eleven are doing their jobs correctly and in style, which is obviously not the case at the moment
 

Bobby has us playing good ball. I reckon the youth of the side doesn't help when it comes to being ruthless. Just don't know if there's enough experience there to get us over the line.

RM needs to sort out the corners though. How many is that this season? must be about 7.
 
Bobby has us playing good ball. I reckon the youth of the side doesn't help when it comes to being ruthless. Just don't know if there's enough experience there to get us over the line.

RM needs to sort out the corners though. How many is that this season? must be about 7.

What gets me is that the corners that don't result in goals aren't cos we're defending them either, its the opposition not converting them. It's very rare we successfully defend anything at the minute. People blame the keeper but the amount of good chances we gift every game is beyond a joke now.
 
Should Rom come back for them??
More than anything we need an out ball so it doesn't come straight back to us when it gets cleared up the pitch. Having at least one or two not coming back also reduces the numbers the opposition can commit forward.

Aye I'm just wondering if leaving up one of the only players we have who can head a ball is wise mate, especially as Barkley for example is absolutely dreadful on them and leaving him up would be safer, as for the out ball, fair enough but I'm more worried that the out ball often seems to be us picking it out the net and trundling up to take the kick off
 
Class? We've been decent going forward at times but defensively as a team we're miles away from class.

If we lose the ball it nearly always results in a chance for them opposition. We must give away more chances than anyone. Good chances as well, Jerome missed an open goal and overall Norwich had the better actual chances in the game today.

I think people have been so starved of anything resembling football under Moyes that they're forgetting football isnt solely about everyone bombing on. A good football side gets the balance right. Everton are miles away from that point at the minute and I worry that anminjurymto Lukaku would see us really struggle to win games.

15 shots to their 9. 3 on target to their 2. Lukaku missed two sitters and Baines hit the bar. Kone had two 1 on 1s with the keeper and scored from neither of them.

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Hoolahan rescues Canaries after Lukaku extends streak

"Lukaku has scored in six consecutive Premier League games, closing in on Jamie Vardy’s record of goals in 11 successive games. Leicester are Everton’s next opposition next Saturday.

Martínez would swap Lukaku’s shot at history for a clean sheet, after one shutout in the last 10 in the Premier League, with Everton’s defending again culpable for Wes Hoolahan’s equaliser two minutes into the second half.

“I would swap any record just to try to keep a clean sheet,” Martínez said. “As a team we know we’ve got incredible individuals, probably some of the best young players in European football. What we need to do is become a team that can control games and make sure we finish with a win, rather than just performing well and dropping points.

“Overall the performance leaves you with a feeling of disappointment, as that should have been a three-point performance.”

John Stones damaged an ankle in the warm-up and appeared to twist his knee during the first half but there is no cause for concern. Martínez said: “He didn’t want to come off. He was magnificent.”
 

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