keverton
Player Valuation: £10m
I get what your saying but what would the board have done if no stones bid had been made.
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I get what your saying but what would the board have done if no stones bid had been made.
i don't think we should accept a penny less than 50mil. It is rare to be in such a strong bargaining position and we should make sure we take full advantage of that position. The best young defender in England with 4 years remaining on his contract at a time when the English premium has never been higher and the buying club, one of the richest in the world, are looking desperate and some of their main rivals are rumoured to be circling.
KevMirallas
Player Valuation: £35m
It's not a bad move for Stones though.
Regardless of what you're telling yourselves, the boy is a special player. He will be in that first team very regularly, will be earning more money and playing in better competitions. He has very little loyalty to Everton (we pinched him from Barnsley on deadline day, after all), so he's different again to Rooney/Barkley/Baines and co.
My main gripe is the timing. Everything out of the club has been that he's happy to stay, and now he's pushed a request through with a week to go - that seems fishy to me. I know little of the lad, but I'm very doubtful he would intentionally leave us in the lurch like this. If he wanted out, they should have had that discussion a month ago and sorted a deal beneficial to everyone. But if Everton are going to say he's not for sale all along, to sell him now is criminal.
The club needs to show some balls, one way or the other. We've been dictated to all along, and it looks to have backfired. Remember when we came out publicly and slammed United for the Fellaini/Baines bid? What's happened to that? Make a call, but make it now, and put some conviction behind it.
Regardless of what you're telling yourselves, the boy is a special player. He will be in that first team very regularly, will be earning more money and playing in better competitions. He has very little loyalty to Everton (we pinched him from Barnsley on deadline day, after all), so he's different again to Rooney/Barkley/Baines and co.
My main gripe is the timing. Everything out of the club has been that he's happy to stay, and now he's pushed a request through with a week to go - that seems fishy to me. I know little of the lad, but I'm very doubtful he would intentionally leave us in the lurch like this. If he wanted out, they should have had that discussion a month ago and sorted a deal beneficial to everyone. But if Everton are going to say he's not for sale all along, to sell him now is criminal.
The club needs to show some balls, one way or the other. We've been dictated to all along, and it looks to have backfired. Remember when we came out publicly and slammed United for the Fellaini/Baines bid? What's happened to that? Make a call, but make it now, and put some conviction behind it.
keverton
Player Valuation: £10m
We are but we won't, he'll go. Board will shake each other's hand in the board room and say job done. Give Martinez 30mill to spend and so we have another window where the board invest nothing in to the squad.
This. We are in charge so we need to flex our muscles and show it. He is still under the contract he was so willing to sign so just wave it under his nose and name our price and stick to it.
the point is that the Board should already have the cash to buy 2-3 good players AND keep John Stones instead of what is happening which is selling john stones and hoping for miracles from a couple of untested no-marks from south america plus maybe a crock form man u
We need to entice city and united into the picture.
I hope we reject the request as I want him to stay, but what if he stays and doesn't want to play or try anymore? I mean I've lost most respect for him now anyway but is there any point keeping him around in that circumstance.
Professor Toffee
On and on, over the hill and the craic is good
Absolutely agree with this, if he's happy to take a new and improved contract for 5 years the he should be expected to honour it
He has asked to break it, its up to us whether we accept this request
However its clear that no footballer sees a contract as anything other than a passsport to more money not a committment to a club
Thats football culture now
Perhaps we should take a position but I very much doubt we will
If however I was in his situation ,where he knows that culturally nobody is really expected to honour contracts, and I was offered the chance to move to the League Champions after Id played one decent season, to earn megabucks over 5 years in a profession that is one bad tackle away from ending your career I know what I'd do. I'd want to play for Everton!
remember when Villa sold Yorke to Utd. They made Utd pay everything upfront. Do the same to Chelsea. 35m all upfront in the next 24 hours and he's yours. I imagine we're going to end up with van Dijk and Evans now, probably Lennon too. Not the best ending to a transfer window
BirkenheadBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
You're still completely missing the point I was making
Keep walking mate seriously
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
I think the only way that could work without Stones coping a season of fan abuse would be for him signing a new contract at the end of the transfer window.
Otherwise, what's the point?
I agree it is so late in the window and he has screwed us a royal one here, but he clearly doesn't want to be here and is about to cop a torrent of abuse from fans at every game.
Set the price first thing tomorrow Everton and give Chelsea, or any other club, 24-48 hours to accept or it is no sale.
If city match the offer accept their offer and not Chelsea. Make Chelsea fail for their pursuit through the media.
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