John Stones transfer saga

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Because clearly Chelsea pay higher wages than we can afford and after having 2 bids rejected Stones and his agents have shown no desire to force through a move. If it was about his income they'd have either initiated contract negiotions already with Everton or tried to force the move through to Chelsea.

It's common football practice as well you know Sir.
Speaking on Thursday, Martinez said: ''I have said before the player is not for sale and that is the end of it.
 

Because clearly Chelsea pay higher wages than we can afford and after having 2 bids rejected Stones and his agents have shown no desire to force through a move. If it was about his income they'd have either initiated contract negiotions already with Everton or tried to force the move through to Chelsea.

It's common football practice as well you know Sir.
You're second guessing a lot there sir.

Offering him a better contract to reflect his worth is a definite positive. On principle yes it would pain somewhat but if it meant one more thing that could tip the player into staying then we would be foolish not to consider it.

It's common practice in employment to offer more wages when someone has a better offer if the company want to retain the employee.
 
It's a good point though, we should use all tools to secure him. Offering him a better contract to reflect his importance in the team could be one option.

I wouldn't do it now though. There's enough going on in his life without sticking a contract under his nose. As a minimum, I'd wait till the window's closed.

We've said he's not for sale, opening up contract negotiations now would make us look worried.
 

I wouldn't do it now though. There's enough going on in his life without sticking a contract under his nose. As a minimum, I'd wait till the window's closed.

We've said he's not for sale, opening up contract negotiations now would make us look worried.
Have the chat now then, make it clear we will sit down and review his remuneration after the Transfer Window closes with some ballpark figures.
 
Have the chat now then, make it clear we will sit down and review his remuneration after the Transfer Window closes with some ballpark figures.

Why? So the agent and every other agent in the land can pull the same trick every 12 months?

Status of the club comes into play - you've signed a five year contract with Everton; he should be expected to honour more than 20% of that without discussing it further surely?
 
Dear Chelsea fans. Everton fan here. Hello. We don't want your money. Not 30. Not 40. Not 50. Genuinely.

50m buys you a hell of a player. But that 50m player won't sign for us.

Your money is useless to us. The best we can get is a bunch of Europa league talents that can sit on the bench behind the few CL level players we have and the rest of our Europa level players.

We can buy a bunch of Shaqiri's ... decent players with too many red flags for the truly great teams.

We can also buy a bunch of unfinished articles ... decent players who need more time to develop and half of which will flame out and flush that money down the toilet.

Maybe we could sign Balotelli too!

Oh and don't forget Johnny Evans.

But we won't get better in the longrun. Just like Spurs didn't get better from selling Bale and the RS didn't get better selling Suarez. We all know now. Go away. Not for sale. Build us a stadium and then maybe we can talk ... until then go away.

And keep in mind this comes from a fan-base flying banners over our stadium because we hate our board who don't invest. We have paid money for ONE senior player this window. We are dead last in spend and low on the net spend table too. Not just for this year -- for over a decade now. And despite all of that -- the vast majority us still don't want to sell to buy and are prepared to go completely mad if our board sells Stones. That's how little most of us believe in this sell to buy fallacy.

Everton will turn down Chelsea’s third bid for Stones and are also now determined to hold out for even more than the £34m it was previously thought could land the 21-year-old.

So they bid 30 and the journos figured "whoops ... the figure we completely made up -- 30-35m -- is obviously not right so let's say they are holding out for 40 now." And people believe this!

Chelsea are unconcerned by Everton’s annoyance over their pursuit of Stones and the claim from manager Roberto Martinez that the transfer window should have shut by now, particularly given the fact the Toffees signed Mason Holgate from Barnsley last week.

So I'm reading an article written by someone with the intellectual capacity of an eight year old ... golden retriever.
 

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