flying banners

Blue Cheese · August 16, 2015

Like it or not, it got coverage, isn't that what we are screaming out for. Suddenly the footballing world knows us Blues are not happy and want some change or at least answers or the very least a player, or 2 or 3.

Barkley1878 · August 16, 2015

Alec clelands forehead said:
Yes it was seen by millions which means that's millions laughing at us. Why do we have to use the tired boring and predictable way of protesting why can't we do something different to them over there. For all the criticism no one has said what they think we should do granted idea one Will get u nicked and although I'd love to see uma in a blue and white jumpsuit stalking the corridors of power at goodison wielding a samurai sword it's not gonna happen but idea two could be on as I've just spotted a montego on auto trader in the heacham area of norfolk if anyone fancies picking it up when we play norwich granted its not the van den plas edition so it's not as heavy but it will still make a right two an eight of them doors

2 things:

1. Why do you care what the Kopites do?

2. Why do you care what other fans think?

I want what's best for MY club I couldn't care what other fans or what kopites think/do maybe you should be the same.

Deggo · August 16, 2015

Barkley1878 said:
2 things:

1. Why do you care what the Kopites do?

2. Why do you care what other fans think?

I want what's best for MY club I couldn't care what other fans or what kopites think/do maybe you should be the same.

It's hard to understand where the OP is coming from maybe he's on a wind up

BoysInBlue · August 16, 2015

Alec clelands forehead said:
Yes it was seen by millions which means that's millions laughing at us. Why do we have to use the tired boring and predictable way of protesting why can't we do something different to them over there. For all the criticism no one has said what they think we should do granted idea one Will get u nicked and although I'd love to see uma in a blue and white jumpsuit stalking the corridors of power at goodison wielding a samurai sword it's not gonna happen but idea two could be on as I've just spotted a montego on auto trader in the heacham area of norfolk if anyone fancies picking it up when we play norwich granted its not the van den plas edition so it's not as heavy but it will still make a right two an eight of them doors

Nobody is laughing at us. More like they're asking questions, like 'Why are they protesting?' That then leads to a conversation being had.
And anyway, who cares if there's people 'laughing at us'? Why be arsed?

As for the text in bold, the people protesting have REPEATEDLY said exactly what they want to happen. If people don't want to listen and be ignorant, and not comprehend stuff, and be content with being mediocre, and being so utterly defeatist, brainwashed into thinking how things are are how things must always be, then that's up to them. Just don't think this is normal, righteous behaviour and makes you a 'good fan'.

Being massively militant doesn't make someone a 'good fan' and by equally the same token, being so utterly apathetic and a club sheep without a brain of your own doesn't make someone a 'good fan' either.

Bilko · August 16, 2015

who decided to do it ? as in,5,10,20,50 blues decided to hire and fly a plane.my issue is the banner represents many thousands of people and yet not necessarily the fan base.if the folks had contacted the forums and asked them to post polls asking whether it was a good idea or not. (would our guys had allowed that ???).

personally,from what I see,we do need a new board, but flying a banner over an away ground possibly isn't the right way to go.dare I say it was a little less risky then flying over GP,where perhaps they might not of got a favourable reaction.

BoysInBlue · August 16, 2015

Bilko said:
who decided to do it ? as in,5,10,20,50 blues decided to hire and fly a plane.my issue is the banner represents many thousands of people and yet not necessarily the fan base.if the folks had contacted the forums and asked them to post polls asking whether it was a good idea or not. (would our guys had allowed that ???).

personally,from what I see,we do need a new board, but flying a banner over an away ground possibly isn't the right way to go.dare I say it was a little less risky then flying over GP,where perhaps they might not of got a favourable reaction.

They had an advertised ahead of time meeting at the Taxi Club on Walton Lane before the Watford game and the people there voted unanimously for it.

I'd say there is a very good chance another plane will be flown above Goodison soon enough. Nobody is scared they're in the minority, far from it.

Deggo · August 16, 2015

Bilko said:
who decided to do it ? as in,5,10,20,50 blues decided to hire and fly a plane.my issue is the banner represents many thousands of people and yet not necessarily the fan base.if the folks had contacted the forums and asked them to post polls asking whether it was a good idea or not. (would our guys had allowed that ???).

personally,from what I see,we do need a new board, but flying a banner over an away ground possibly isn't the right way to go.dare I say it was a little less risky then flying over GP,where perhaps they might not of got a favourable reaction.

To bring the fans discontent to the world do you have any better suggestions?

Deggo · August 16, 2015

BoysInBlue said:
They had an advertised ahead of time meeting at the Taxi Club on Walton Lane before the Watford game and the people there voted unanimously for it.

I'd say there is a very good chance another plane will be flown above Goodison soon enough. Nobody is scared they're in the minority, far from it.

I think it's an excellent idea to do this as a start and I for one would donate my hard earned for any good Ideas for exposure

BoysInBlue · August 16, 2015

Deggo said:
I think it's an excellent idea to do this as a start and I for one would donate my hard earned for any good Ideas for exposure

The next banners should have a specific issue as to why we want Kenwright and the board out, i.e.

'3 FAILED STADIUM MOVES - KENWRIGHT OUT'
'£3M NET TRANSFER SPEND OVER LAST 10 YEARS - KENWRIGHT OUT'
'WHAT DOES ROBERT EARL DO? - KENWRIGHT OUT'

Etc. Hammer home to people exactly what the issues are and make it clear it has nothing to do with the manager or the players.

Bilko · August 16, 2015

Deggo said:
To bring the fans discontent to the world do you have any better suggestions?

find out whether it's the wish of the fans they represent as to what they want to do , how and where they want to do it,Forums,twitter,and facebook,three very easy ways to get the census of the 1000's of fans.then if it's the wish of your fanbase,then you can claim it represents them.

BoysInBlue · August 16, 2015

Bilko said:
find out whether it's the wish of the fans they represent as to what they want to do , how and where they want to do it,Forums,twitter,and facebook,three very easy ways to get the census of the 1000's of fans.then if it's the wish of your fanbase,then you can claim it represents them.

That happens.

There's a poll on this forum here https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/the-everton-board-thread-2015-16.77965/ that 355 people have voted in, and 82% want Kenwright Out. Of course that's not the entire fanbase, but as a snapshot, it's a good indicator. Other sites ran similar polls in recent days, including the Mirror, and they had 80% wanting Kenwright gone too.

It's not like random individuals are protesting. It's a consensus, whether you agree with it or not.

Deggo · August 16, 2015

BoysInBlue said:
The next banners should have a specific issue as to why we want Kenwright and the board out, i.e.

'3 FAILED STADIUM MOVES - KENWRIGHT OUT'
'£3M NET TRANSFER SPEND OVER LAST 10 YEARS - KENWRIGHT OUT'
'WHAT DOES ROBERT EARL DO? - KENWRIGHT OUT'

Etc. Hammer home to people exactly what the issues are and make it clear it has nothing to do with the manager or the players.

I think those ideas should be passed on to the organisations along with any other ideas others have to propose,this thing should not halt because we beat Southampton,some good suggestions

Deggo · August 16, 2015

Bilko said:
find out whether it's the wish of the fans they represent as to what they want to do , how and where they want to do it,Forums,twitter,and facebook,three very easy ways to get the census of the 1000's of fans.then if it's the wish of your fanbase,then you can claim it represents them.

One word mate,ambition,it's gone from everton FC,surely you can't be happy with the stagnation of the club

Deggo · August 16, 2015

BoysInBlue said:
That happens.

There's a poll on this forum here https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/the-everton-board-thread-2015-16.77965/ that 355 people have voted in, and 82% want Kenwright Out. Of course that's not the entire fanbase, but as a snapshot, it's a good indicator. Other sites ran similar polls in recent days, including the Mirror, and they had 80% wanting Kenwright gone too.

It's not like random individuals are protesting. It's a consensus, whether you agree with it or not.

I was going to mention this

Bilko · August 16, 2015

that's a poll that says 82% want Kenwright out. not ,lets fly a plane over St Mary's and, as you say in your previous post give out the wrong message that the media might have picked up on, we're unhappy with our spending on the team,where it clearly runs deeper than that.