Get in bed with the devil though and you get burnt.
Or molested with a trident.
Get in bed with the devil though and you get burnt.
Sorry, I just can't help victimising the wealthy and invulnerable in society. As opposed to these sponging layabouts:
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I don't think able-bodied people understand the fear and threat and legitimate worry that the results of this election mean for a lot of disabled people. It's not that we're disappointed that our team didn't win. Disability groups I am a member of are literally posting numbers to the Samaritans and other helplines for members to phone.
People care even less than I thought they did. A Tory majority is far worse than expected. They're going to tax disability benefit (the same as reducing it) and they're going to tighten the definition as to who deserves to get it. It's not just money to us, or a pair of new jeans or whatever. It's the difference between leaving your house and not. It's a way to be less disabled by our impairments, a way to try to live our lives as best we can. Making disabled people poorer makes us more disabled. Money is access. It makes the circle labeled Things I Can't Do bigger and Things I Could Do smaller. And that first circle is so big to begin with.
Even if you agree with the idea that making the rich richer helps the poor, what is happening to disabled people in this country helps no one. Marginalising the disabled doesn't somehow improve things for anyone else. It makes it worse for the able-bodied too. Even if you are not caring for, a family member of, or friends with a disabled person, in the words of Richard Herring, "If you’re not disabled now, then one day you might be. When that happens you’ll want to go to the pub or get on public transport. You’ll want to be seen as a person, not as a disability. Purely out of selfishness you should be fighting for disabled rights. If you don’t, you are prejudiced against your future self. And your future self hates you and thinks you’re a [Poor language removed]."
How can we push back? It is important to fight back, to get active. We need to win allies. We need to set up an activist group so that I can get on Channel4 News and swear at a politician live on TV. I don't know what to do but I don't want to be passive."
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Shame on us.
Put yourself in the shoes of the obscenely wealthy for a change
We'll see if that's the case. I know enough people who would be effected by that so only time will tell.@SNova and @harry @Jxg
You do understand that when we are discussing the tories attacking the poor and sick, they are not removing some lazy scruffy chavs who cant be arsed working from benefit street into work ... they are targeting people with crippling illnesses and disablities, people with terminal illnesses like cancer and telling them to find a job or die. Were you aware of this?
I do hope you don't lose your job or interest rates go through the roof and your mortgage is 5 times what it was I really doExactly how everyone should vote. Charity begins at home, not in the polling booth.
Obviously the needy and charity are two different things, but the concept is still the same. People should vote in their interests, not in the interests of others.
As for that last bit, that sounds seriously communist. Thankfully the majority of society doesn't agree with it.
What is the minimum wage in the UK these days. Just curiousCan't believe there looking at dropping the min wage
I think the they crack open the caviar and champers everynight.On the upside, the super-rich are cracking open the caviar and champers tonight.
Spot on.
The Labour party and it's supporters need to take it on the chin, not make any excuses and sort it out. The SNP may have had a small effect here and there in England, but can't be blamed for Labour's failure. Hiding behind excuses would be awful. If nothing else, the country needs a credible opposition.
interest rates go through the roof
@SNova and @harry @Jxg
You do understand that when we are discussing the tories attacking the poor and sick, they are not removing some lazy scruffy chavs who cant be arsed working from benefit street into work ... they are targeting people with crippling illnesses and disablities, people with terminal illnesses like cancer and telling them to find a job or die. Were you aware of this?
Is that a joke? Where did you read that?Can't believe there looking at dropping the min wage
Hmm. It seems we have different views on democracy.
See, I believe that a a party's vote share should determine their representation in parliament. UKIP got 13% of the vote so they should have 13% of the seats. Hell, if the Greens or bloody CPGB got 13% of the votes they should have 13% of the seats, because that's true democracy. I wouldn't like it but I wouldn't go as far as saying disproportionate representation is a "saving grace of democracy".
No difference at all?
Which, ironically, would have been more likely with a different result last night.
The saving grace of our flawed system is that UKIP only won one seat. Yep.
I believe their ideology is bigoted and has no place in our society. Many of their supporters are overtly racist and they spread fear where there is none, playing on insecurities to achieve their goal. Big win for our democratic system last night.