2015 post UK election discussion

[Toffeelover]

Burnham is exactly the sort of guy who will alienate every area of U K except Merseyside. Chukka has no purchase on any constituency except London. Cooper, Jarvis and possibly Rachel Reeves are just about the only candidates who have the slightest chance of recovering some pride from a horror show.

Sickened that good people - including people posting on here @the esk @chewee- have been let down by an Oxbridge elite who could tell you the price of a falafel on Kings Parade but wouldn't know scatchings from excema.

Do you meant the two Eds or the blue lot?

 

[The Esk]

@SNova @Whistlin' Dixie

Lads keep it civil, argue the substance of your arguments, don't resort to name calling etc.

 

[davek]

I'm thinking it probably won't end well

There's no checks and balances anymore on this government; no unbiased media, no trade union movement, no effective opposition. They'll use the decade they have to come in power fundamentally rearranging the way this country views what is morally right.

Honest to God, I really dont think some people realize what's coming down the track. These people are scary zealots, they are not 'Shire Tories' or 'one nation Tories'; they are in the business of tearing up old norms and finishing the job of Thatcherism to create an atomized society that completely thinks in terms of monetizing almost every human interaction.

It wont affect the 11M who voted for them though...so that's a relief to them, I suppose.

 

[Khalekan]

I just told you who I classify as scroungers, Jesus Christ.

People who can work, but choose not to because they'd prefer just to get benefits because they think the world owes them a living.

Like the royal family.....the biggest scroungers of all.

Great post, lad.

 

[Toffeelover]

Good luck to the Scots. I hope they ram their advantage home. You've got a demographic shift to come in your favour too: the pension age who voted heavily 'No' back in September wont be replaced by people who think like them.

Independence in the next parliament might not be on the table, but full fiscal autonomy will be and that's pretty much you lot free of these Tory beauts down here anyway.

But Dave it also means that the Scots will not be able to participate in votes on other non Scot policies which will hurt Labour more, Think you are being short sighted, your dislike is clouding your vision, heaven help our socialist party then.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

@SNova @Whistlin' Dixie

Lads keep it civil, argue the substance of your arguments, don't resort to name calling etc.

Fair do's. I consider meself warned.

I want to know who these scroungers are though. Not just a sweeping generalisation.

 

[davek]

But Dave it also means that the Scots will not be able to participate in votes on other non Scot policies which will hurt Labour more, Think you are being short sighted, your dislike is clouding your vision, heaven help our socialist party then.

Scotland has gone. Forget about it. No use wishing for that one to come back again; that's flown the nest

 

[Eggs]

Burnham is exactly the sort of guy who will alienate every area of U K except Merseyside. Chukka has no purchase on any constituency except London. Cooper, Jarvis and possibly Rachel Reeves are just about the only candidates who have the slightest chance of recovering some pride from a horror show.

Sickened that good people - including people posting on here @the esk @chewee- have been let down by an Oxbridge elite who could tell you the price of a falafel on Kings Parade but wouldn't know scatchings from excema.

....interesting that Dan Jarvis is shortening in betting, as low as 3-1 in places. Rachel Reeeves is an outsider, I recall she is a finance guru so might well be shadow chancellor (I also think she's heavily pregnant so the timing might not be right). Dan Jarvis, I wonder.

 

[kenada_blue]

Never liked this country anyway.

 

[Khalekan]

....just checked the betting for next Labour leader, Chukka is relatively short priced followed by Andy Burnham. Yvette Cooper is a likely runner but I can't see that happening myself.

It woukd be a horrendously backward step for Labour to make her their leader.

Then again, no political party in history has the capacity for self destruction that the Labour Party does.

 

[Sapie88]

I keep calling Tories paedophile enablers on Facebook to see who bites.

 

[Eggs]

It woukd be a horrendously backward step for Labour to make her their leader.

Then again, no political party in history has the capacity for self destruction that the Labour Party does.

.....not sure if the selection process has changed since the Milliband debacle.

 

[kenada_blue]

It's the end of the welfare state: farmed out to the voluntary sector now. It's the end of the NHS as we know it; mostly privatized (those bits that can make a good profit)...expect an American insurance scheme system for all of us soon.

That should take care of the £12 billion, and then some.


Apparently though it's not going to affect the 11M who voted Tory. They'll all be ok. They cleverly came to their decision by carefully weighing up the choices on offer.

Let's see how that one goes.

Yup.

From what I've made out, 11million people have had it easy for the past 5 years and want more of the same.

Their cornflakes will taste better in the morning.

A lot of other people can't even get cornflakes at a effing food bank

 

[Khalekan]

For me the big issue coming out of this election is the system. The recent events have stoked up the subject of reform, see my post 336.

Should the country be looking at PR to achieve a more fair representation in Parliament.

It should be, of course.

And soft lad Clegg thoughts he could extract such a price in 2010.

But there is now no dynamic within the ruling party to change things as they appear set to rule for at least another decade.

 

[Khalekan]

Get ready for 'The Harrying of the North' .

First it was the Normans.......then Thatcher......now the New Model Tories.

ee but it's grim oop North......