2015 post UK election discussion

[RFUS]

Also highlights the stupidity of the First Past the Post system.

Nearly 50% of the seats with 36% of the vote? Sound logic.

 

[SteamyRayVaughn]

If it wasn't already clear, this election shows that England is a right-of-centre country.

Unfortunately, the answer for Labour doesn't seem to be a more left-wing stance, but a 'New-Labour' move to the centre.

Today feels a bit like turkeys voting for Christmas; huge cuts to the state and barely a chance of a lessening of inequality or a tackling of the cause of the financial crash with a Tory majority in charge.

Labour have paid the price for not adequately challenging the Tory line that they caused the crash.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Well it looks like we've got a referendum on Europe coming up in a bit.

 

[Allezfan]

Well it looks like we've got a referendum on Europe coming up in a bit.

Yep, big one that.

 

[Moomin]

Imagine being a lib dem, though. Only 8 bloody seats, christ.

Imagine being a Lib Dem follower upset with the party by teaming up with the tories and then actually voting for the Tories.

 

[peteblue]

Some excellent (ex) MPs lost their seats, and the overall result, whilst not exactly decisive, was driven in part I am sure, by an English reaction to the SNP. Or rather their possible influence.

But a few By-Elections could change all that!

I thought the election managed to get rid of a few dead-wood MP's, Cable, Balls, Galloway all well past their sell by dates. The results may have been a shock to many but as I suggested a while ago the shy Tories probably carried the night. The real trick will be to help defuse any bitterness derived from the results and see how we as a nation either come together or find a way of working together...........

 

[Allezfan]

Imagine being a Lib Dem follower upset with the party by teaming up with the tories and then actually voting for the Tories.

Given that the lib dem supporters seem to have all gone over to the tories, it does seem that their main support was from the right rather than the left. Weird result, like.

 

[roydo]

Well it looks like we've got a referendum on Europe coming up in a bit.

Cue lots of deals and that in Europe.

 

[Groucho]

I thought the election managed to get rid of a few dead-wood MP's, Cable, Balls, Galloway all well past their sell by dates. The results may have been a shock to many but as I suggested a while ago the shy Tories probably carried the night. The real trick will be to help defuse any bitterness derived from the results and see how we as a nation either come together or find a way of working together...........

Never liked Balls or Cable, even as a Labour voter.

 

[SteamyRayVaughn]

Interesting that Merseyside/North West constituencies all had a good turnout and a decent swing towards Labour, taking Tory seats in Wirral West and Chester.

Shame southern England is full of utter whoppers.

 

[neil999]

Imagine being a Lib Dem follower upset with the party by teaming up with the tories and then actually voting for the Tories.

or hating the tories and austerity adn wanting them OUT!

then voting green...

 

[Black Belt Jones]

Seems like Scotland was too difficult a circle to square for Milliband and labour - he needed to have been far cleverer during the referendum and put more separation between himself and the Tories on the issue, whilst maintaining the trust of the English voter that he wouldn't get pushed around by the SNP. Playing both sides, basically, the art of politics. Far from easy, like, and I can't think of any current politician who might have pulled this off.

Instead he's got the worst of both worlds with the SNP circus crushing the whole of Scotland - schoolgirls seeing off experienced parliamentarians, plus the English floating vote telling him in no uncertain terms what they thought of the possibility of a SNP coalition at Westminster.

 

[roydo]

I thought the election managed to get rid of a few dead-wood MP's, Cable, Balls, Galloway all well past their sell by dates. The results may have been a shock to many but as I suggested a while ago the shy Tories probably carried the night. The real trick will be to help defuse any bitterness derived from the results and see how we as a nation either come together or find a way of working together...........

Yeah, thats another way of putting it!

I agree with your point about the sleepy Tory vote; said similar myself in the other thread.

 

[Allezfan]

The real trick will be to help defuse any bitterness derived from the results and see how we as a nation either come together or find a way of working together...........

Doesn't matter at all. The opposition will always hate the government. I remember all the 'broken britain, joke of a country' stuff from when blair was in charge.

The truth is, most of the country are behind your boys. They can do what they want. Labour supporters will hate all that because if they didn't, they'd have voted for tories but it isn't and shouldn't be a priority to try and recah out to those guys. Just do what you think is right, if you're right that it'll help the country, you'll be proved right, there's no need to care about defusing bitterness.

 

[Furey1878]

5 more years of tory government... sigh.