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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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catcherintherye said:
This is a classic example of kopite spivery when it comes to spinning defence. So much so it will be read by hundreds of people then parade around the internet and pubs, Chinese whispers style as Gospel. "When you look at the dem stats and moneyball you see we are better than Man united lad".

I will try and give some clarity to what he is saying. As above all else it is unclear as well as illogical. The main gist of hi argument is, when your leading scorer gets 15+ goals you tend to finish I the top 4. The problem is that on 7 of the 16 seasons he samples disprove this. That I nearly 45%! His own hypothesis is blow away by the evidence he presents! Only an absolute cretin would try argue for a cause affect on those numbers. Forget causation or correlation, there is no correlation! I work loosely in statistics and can assure one and all this is utter nonsense.

The second thing he does is say about the age of the players, to divert the blame from Rodgers. The stats again disprove this (the evidence being Owen). So what does he do when faced with this dilemma? Does he re-evaluate? Or change the criteria? No he just removes the data he doesn't like, or doesn't back up his hypothesis. Any shred of objectivity goes with it as does the reliability. When I say they invent evidence to back up flawed arguments, there an be no clearer example than that.

Even if it stacked up (that their strike force was too young to succeed) how does it square with having 3 strikers older than Michael Owen (Balotelli, Sturridge, Borini) and 4th who is 34?

The thing is, despite his obsession with par and numbers, all he's saying is "if we'd have had a top striker we'd be higher". This is very obvious. Why doesn't get Rodgers off the hook. Why didn't he buy a better striker, or get more from the 55 million pounds worth of strikers at his disposal? Saying your strikers are rubbish so you can't blame the manager just belies the logic of what a manager is meant to do.

In all honesty this is what makes me laugh about FSG. They have turned know nothing idiot kopites think they are re-inventing football. His post could be summed up as "buying good strikers makes you more likely to finish higher". That is too simple for them though. So they try to quasi scientific-mathematical explanation and fall well short. The problem is, as I said above, for the rest of we have to deal with the drivel passed down like gospel from the goons who aren't critical enough to see behind the fallacy.
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So in short you think this kopite, just like the rest of them, is spouting absolute bollocks?
 



Prevenger17 said:
What is it with these lads and par?
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That is an awful lot of words to say that scoring more goals means you'll tend to do better over the course of a season, then I'm a bit simple unlike these clever lads who spend their days cluttering up their mums' living room floors with cut up bedsheets and felt tip pens.
 

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