Luke Garbutt

bluemangroup · April 2, 2015

Joey66 said:
To players at the end of their careers sorry I disagree - What value have we had out of them this season? Hibbert, and co ?

They've been vital to team morale

Prevenger17 · April 2, 2015

bluemangroup said:
They've been vital to team morale

And they make excellent scapegoats.

SpurtingLesbian · April 2, 2015

Joey66 said:
To players at the end of their careers sorry I disagree - What value have we had out of them this season? Hibbert, and co ?

There wages represent a fraction of what it would cost to get in an experienced replacement who'd be resigned to cover a position and the wages we'd have to pay them to do it. They also are experienced, trusted figures who'll be spending a lot of their time with the younger players passing on their experience. Something you wouldn't get with simply hiring a random mercenary to bench warm.

bluemangroup · April 2, 2015

Prevenger17 said:
And they make excellent scapegoats.

Surprised they haven't be used as scapegoats more tbh. I think though with Europe, Martinez has favoured rotation and it gives some of the younger lads a shot to establish themselves as regular scapegoats later in their careers

mawders · April 2, 2015

should be first choice LB next season. Time for Bobby to test out the Baines in midfield idea. It could work...it we were not already overloaded with CMs

BlueLlama · April 2, 2015

Hibbo did not disgrace himself once this season. He was necessary cover at times.

Prevenger17 · April 2, 2015

bluemangroup said:
Surprised they haven't be used as scapegoats more tbh. I think though with Europe, Martinez has favoured rotation and it gives some of the younger lads a shot to establish themselves as regular scapegoats later in their careers

With all the excessive hope and adoration that people have placed on young Besic already, he may well be one of our greatest ever scapegoats in a couple of years time.

bluemangroup · April 2, 2015

Prevenger17 said:
With all the excessive hope and adoration that people have placed on young Besic already, he may well be one of our greatest ever scapegoats in a couple of years time.

He certainly has a lot of potential in the scapegoat game. He's achieved cult hero status quickly despite not doing anything and specialises in kicking people. I think he's got a real chance of being a massive disappointment

Prevenger17 · April 2, 2015

bluemangroup said:
He certainly has a lot of potential in the scapegoat game. He's achieved cult hero status quickly despite not doing anything and specialises in kicking people. I think he's got a real chance of being a massive disappointment

I thought Ross really stepped up this season. A real buzz about him now, and there's a lot of people saying he could be a really huge scapegoat for England's next failure aswell. I think the fact that we have so many scapegoats that can disappoint everyone at international level speaks volumes about our progress under Martinez.

bluemangroup · April 2, 2015

Prevenger17 said:
I thought Ross really stepped up this season. A real buzz about him now, and there's a lot of people saying he could be a really huge scapegoat for England's next failure aswell. I think the fact that we have so many scapegoats that can disappoint everyone at international level speaks volumes about our progress under Martinez.

must.....stay...on....topic.....Garbutt

Goat · April 2, 2015

orly said:
I'll tag in @MoutsGoat who knows the score

Signed a precontract at Tranmere last week.

barneygumble · April 2, 2015

I personally think hibbo was great when he played this year. He's past it, we all know it, but every team targeted him, especially Liverpool and Sterling, and i thought he did great there too.

AdamEFC · April 2, 2015

mawders said:
should be first choice LB next season. Time for Bobby to test out the Baines in midfield idea. It could work...it we were not already overloaded with CMs

Why move arguably the best player in his position in the league to play a kid who may or may not be good enough for the league.

Abraders · April 2, 2015

AdamEFC said:
Why move arguably the best player in his position in the league to play a kid who may or may not be good enough for the league.

To get Garbutt to stay, and for Bainesy to put some balls through the middle! Idk

Joey66 · April 2, 2015

SpurtingLesbian said:
There wages represent a fraction of what it would cost to get in an experienced replacement who'd be resigned to cover a position and the wages we'd have to pay them to do it. They also are experienced, trusted figures who'll be spending a lot of their time with the younger players passing on their experience. Something you wouldn't get with simply hiring a random mercenary to bench warm.

It could be their affluent wages in their contracts that Garbutt may be looking at deferring him from signing if his offer is maybe on the low side?