Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics

[Saint Domingo]

He was only good in the World Cup because Origi hit everything at him. As soon as Lukaku came in he has it in at the near post after Howard has gone down too early, sound familiar?

These stats also show John Stones is boss, our team is lazy and we're rubbish at passing.

 

[USABlue]

He was only good in the World Cup because Origi hit everything at him. As soon as Lukaku came in he has it in at the near post after Howard has gone down too early, sound familiar?

These stats also show John Stones is boss, our team is lazy and we're rubbish at passing.

he played well in the group as well, the belgium game just got the most attention

 

[Toffeelover]

He was only good in the World Cup because Origi hit everything at him. As soon as Lukaku came in he has it in at the near post after Howard has gone down too early, sound familiar?

These stats also show John Stones is boss, our team is lazy and we're rubbish at passing.

Also not as fit as those Burnley lads and we play them soon. Not surprised about Howard, i shake my head at the prospect of next season knowing that RM will pick him. Lukaku does not out that well either. Damn the stats.

 

[USABlue]

He lets in 1 out of 16 in the USA WC game but is now letting in 7 out of 16!

He's always had issues with his positioning and late movement when facing shots from distance but now he also seems to have lost a split second in his reflexes. Not good.

this is exactly what I've been trying to say mate. He's never had good positioning but his athleticism used to make up for it but now he's aged it's being exposed

 

[SH1958]

That is startling. He only has 4/24 clean sheets this year as well. Robles has 3 from 7 games. If you look in more detail, Howard has conceded n average of 1.5 goals per game whereas Robles only conceded 0.85 goals per game.

I always rated Howard but this year he has been calamitous.

Howard was usually good for 10-15 clean sheets a season, should give Robles a chance in the remaining games

Tim Howard
Prem starts 24
Clean Sheets 4
Shots Faced 86
Saves 50
Goals conceded 36
Save to Shot Ratio 58.1%

Tim Howard
Europa starts 9
Clean Sheets 3
Shots Faced 52
Saves 42
Goals conceded 10
Save to Shot Ratio 80.8%

Joel Robles
Prem starts 6
Clean Sheets 3
Shots Faced 21
Saves 15
Goals conceded 6
Save to Shot Ratio 71.4%

Joel Robles
Europa starts 1
Clean Sheets 0
Shots Faced 5
saves 4
goals conceded 1
Save to Shot Ratio 80%

Joel Robles
FA Cup starts 2
Clean Sheets 0
Shots Faced 14
saves 11
goals conceded 3
Save to Shot Ratio 78.6%

 

[tim cahill]

So this is saying the Naismith is far better at finishing than Lukaku?

Correct. By some distance as well.

 

[tim cahill]

Howard was usually good for 10-15 clean sheets a season, should give Robles a chance in the remaining games

Tim Howard
Prem starts 24
Clean Sheets 4
Shots Faced 86
Saves 50
Goals conceded 36
Save to Shot Ratio 58.1%

Tim Howard
Europa starts 9
Clean Sheets 3
Shots Faced 52
Saves 42
Goals conceded 10
Save to Shot Ratio 80.8%

Joel Robles
Prem starts 6
Clean Sheets 3
Shots Faced 21
Saves 15
Goals conceded 6
Save to Shot Ratio 71.4%

Joel Robles
Europa starts 1
Clean Sheets 0
Shots Faced 5
saves 4
goals conceded 1
Save to Shot Ratio 80%

Joel Robles
FA Cup starts 2
Clean Sheets 0
Shots Faced 14
saves 11
goals conceded 3
Save to Shot Ratio 78.6%

It really was an embarrassingly bad decision bringing Howard back into the side wasn't it? What was Roberto thinking?!

 

[SH1958]

So this is saying the Naismith is far better at finishing than Lukaku?

It's the forwards most likely to score from the chances they are offered/best shot conversion rate
Sergio Agüero has scored 17 goals this season and is not in the top-20 list.

 

[Huyton Layne]

It's the forwards most likely to score from the chances they are offered/best shot conversion rate
Sergio Agüero has scored 17 goals this season and is not in the top-20 list.

Ok I think I'm getting this. You're saying that if Naismith played with David Villa and Samir Nasri behind him he'd have scored 20+ this season?

 

[SH1958]

So Stoke’s Walters is No 1, he's made 24 appearances & scored 7 goals

Sergio Agüero is not in the top 20, he's made 25 appearances & scored 17 goals

I know who I would sooner have in my team

 

[SH1958]

Correct. By some distance as well.

Romelu Lukaku Stats
30 Games Played
27 Starts
62 Total Shots (exc. blocked shots)
35 Shots On Target
8 Goals Scored
5 Left Foot Goals
3 Right Foot Goals
7 Goals inside box
1 Goal outside box
12.9% Conversion Rate
299.9 Mins Per Goal

Steven Naismith Stats
25 Games Played
21 Starts
20 Total Shots (exc. blocked shots)
11 Shots On Target
6 Goals Scored
1 Left Foot Goal
3 Right Foot Goals
2 Headed Goals
6 Goals inside box
30.0% Conversion Rate
319.5 Mins Per Goal

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

Nothing will ever convince me that Naismith is a better finisher than Lukaku. He just isn't.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Nothing will ever convince me that Naismith is a better finisher than Lukaku. He just isn't.

Is Naismith another of our players you hate Eric?

Who's not on the Eric hate list?

 

[Minimeister]

Nothing will ever convince me that Naismith is a better finisher than Lukaku. He just isn't.

He is mate. Naismith barely misses a chance. Boss slotter.

 

[Minimeister]

It really was an embarrassingly bad decision bringing Howard back into the side wasn't it? What was Roberto thinking?!

Say what you want about Tim but the biggest concern is our manager can fail to see what he does to a defence and how poor he has been this season. Doesn't stand us in good stead going forward like.