Martinez OUT. There i said it. (end of the season of course).

davek · February 15, 2015

MoutsGoat said:
Lukaku was injured for 4 weeks, in the time he was injured we suffered 2 1-0 defeats in games we should and could have won if we had just had an actual striker leading the line, it was a turning point and it cost us a CL place.

He did move for one and got him. The feller tweaked his injury again though. That's not the same as ignoring the need for a player or being easily fobbed off by the board...something ginger bollocks did on many an occasion in January.

Goat · February 15, 2015

davek said:
He did move for one and got him. The feller tweaked his injury again though. That's not the same as ignoring the need for a player or being easily fobbed off by the board...something ginger bollocks did on many an occasion in January.

As I say, for me, it was a warning sign and I expressed it as such last January.

deipnosophist · February 15, 2015

You won't get me saying anything bad about a manager who has nurtured, and seen blossom, the talent that is Steven Naismith. That Roberto also managed to get Naisy to extend his contract here at EFC for a further 3 years, doubtless in the face of many competing bids for his signature by the so-called 'elite' clubs, speaks volumes about the man. His convincing club legends, Ozzie and Hibbo, to also extend (again, fending off what I imagine was furious competition), was just the icing on the cake.

daz4matty · February 15, 2015

deipnosophist said:
You won't get me saying anything bad about a manager who has nurtured, and seen blossom, the talent that is Steven Naismith. That Roberto also managed to get Naisy to extend his contract here at EFC for a further 3 years, doubtless in the face of many competing bids for his signature by the so-called 'elite' clubs, speaks volumes about the man. His convincing club legends, Ozzie and Hibbo, to also extend (again, fending off what I imagine was furious competition), was just the icing on the cake.

Don't forget gareth barrys 6 year contract

mrb85 · February 15, 2015

daz4matty said:
Don't forget gareth barrys 6 year contract

is that all it was?

deipnosophist · February 15, 2015

mrb85 said:
is that all it was?

I believe so. I recall a lot of posters to this forum being upset that it was so short.

Toffeelover · February 15, 2015

Dario Terracotta said:
He's still a young man Martinez,who is to say this season,although disappointing(with many mitigating circumstances)but hardly disastrous in the grand scheme,will not be a part of a learning curve that anyone in any job can go through and come out the other side a better man for the job?Have a little patience as old Barlow(Gary not Ken)would say.

Hold on he has been in management for how many years, have you counted and he needs experience, utter tosh.

Dario Terracotta · February 15, 2015

Toffeelover said:
Hold on he has been in management for how many years, have you counted and he needs experience, utter tosh.

Swansea,then Wigan,even allowing for the common perception we are a "small club" its a different level of pressure he's operating under here.

davek · February 15, 2015

Toffeelover said:
Hold on he has been in management for how many years, have you counted and he needs experience, utter tosh.

It's his first time at managing a club of this stature.

Toffeelover · February 15, 2015

davek said:
It's his first time at managing a club of this stature.

Rubbish, take into account how long he has been in Football not just as a manager, and you are saying this is his first real job! As he would say Incredible! He has been in management for 7 years after which surely he can tell good players from bad, understand what tactics win games, understand the transfer market, understand subbing, team selection, training, fitness.
In what way is that different from other clubs?

TheFinnFan · February 15, 2015

so, bobby was told to start defend lol

OK.. :bye:

Toffeelover · February 15, 2015

One little point to bear in mind is that RM was DM! Could that have anything to do with the players we have, our tactics and no playmeker.

davek · February 15, 2015

Toffeelover said:
Rubbish, take into account how long he has been in Football not just as a manager, and you are saying this is his first real job! As he would say Incredible! He has been in management for 7 years after which surely he can tell good players from bad, understand what tactics win games, understand the transfer market, understand subbing, team selection, training, fitness.
In what way is that different from other clubs?

There's way more pressure in this job. Swansea and Wigan wouldn't and couldn't have prepared him for it. He's come under scrutiny like never before.

I think he's been uncomfortable with that. He's been taken out of his comfort zone this season. But that's an experience I'm sure he'll take stock of and learn from.

We have a very smart manager, and though I see what's happened this season as a pain in the arse we could have done without, it could be very useful to him (and us) in the near future.

Goat · February 15, 2015

davek said:
There's way more pressure in this job. Swansea and Wigan wouldn't and couldn't have prepared him for it. He's come under scrutiny like never before.

I think he's been uncomfortable with that. He's been taken out of his comfort zone this season. But that's an experience I'm sure he'll take stock of and learn from.

We have a very smart manager, and though I see what's happened this season as a pain in the arse we could have done without, it could be very useful to him (and us) in the near future.

Yeah its gonna be very useful in the Summer when we lose abar 30m in TV money.

But just keep hiding yo head in dat der sand yo.