What the Hell is happening to Everton?

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Out of all our remaining fixtures there's only really Arsenal away I'd be majorly concerned with. Yeah we've got to play United but at least that's at Goodison.
 
Deluded you if you think this is a matter of poor for, we only scored a respectable amount of goals when we were conceding shed loads now we have tightened up we can't score. You keep embracing the joker in charge an if he comes good I'll apologise an support him. I'll live by the club motto

So, are we where we are because
(i) we have a terrible manager and a poor team, or
(ii) the team is not performing to the standards it is capable of?

I ask because you seem to want it both ways. Firstly you don't respect the team because we are in a false position, and then secondly you say it's not a matter of form.

The two statements are not consistent mate.
 

We held Chelsea to 0-0 for 89 minutes mate...no way we're getting relegated

Yes and it was our best performance of perhaps all season (Not including Europe)
Other sides lower than us can point to their results and pick out a great effort or performance or result. Its not about one game, the season is played over 38 games... We have done very badly over 25 and the simple fact is we are in a perilous position.

You dont think we will be relegated, neither do I but that does not mean we are in a relegation fight
 
So, are we where we are because
(i) we have a terrible manager and a poor team, or
(ii) the team is not performing to the standards it is capable of?

I ask because you seem to want it both ways. Firstly you don't respect the team because we are in a false position, and then secondly you say it's not a matter of form.

The two statements are not consistent mate.
That makes no senses I expect better of this team an hold the manager responsible

The players have even had to have a meeting with him to ask him to change his style FFS

So option (iii) we have a average/poor manager
 

We held Chelsea to 0-0 for 89 minutes mate...no way we're getting relegated
Such a nonsense response in 97/98 we beat Liverpool 2-0 Chelsea 3-1 and drew with arsenal (champions that season) 2-2 and survived on the last day.

With your attitude towards one off games only not bein in it is stopping Bradford from being champions of europe
 
That makes no senses I expect better of this team an hold the manager responsible

The players have even had to have a meeting with him to ask him to change his style FFS

So option (iii) we have a average/poor manager

I'm not picking on you mate, I'm genuinely interested.

If Martinez is responsible for this season's performances then who was responsible for last seasons?
 
I'm not picking on you mate, I'm genuinely interested.

If Martinez is responsible for this season's performances the who was responsible for last seasons?
Mixture of him an moyes, moyes had a disciplined an well drill back 5 an Martinez took it from there now our attacking play has been found out we struggle which coincides with the fact we only scored a decent amount of goals this season we conceded a bucket load also and since we have stopped conceding we have stopped scoring
 
Why do you build me up, Everton, baby
just to let me down and mess us around
And then worst of all (worst of all) you freefall, baby
Straight down the league (down the league) but I love you still
I need you (I need you) more than anyone, darlin'
You know that I have from the start
So build me up (build me up) Everton, don't break my heart
 

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