TTIP

bizzaro · February 6, 2015

The Equaliser said:
No what you're saying.

Is that you should.

Stop putting full stops.

In the middle of sentences.

I'm allowing myself to breath mate. Not like a hysterical plotter having a breakdown over TTIP or FFP or Roberto Martinez

orchard · February 7, 2015

Groucho said:
Yes, that's why I'd like it exempted.

-and everything else, presumably.

The Equaliser · February 7, 2015

bizzaro said:
I'm allowing myself to breath mate. Not like a hysterical plotter having a breakdown over TTIP or FFP or Roberto Martinez

Make sure you inhale properly then.

Because your sentences.

Are getting.

Shorter.

The Esk · February 7, 2015

bizzaro said:
The Conservatives and UKIP would if they had their own trade deal would do a bodge job. Labour and others not much better

European laws protect health and the environment far more than those two parties would have.

European trade laws are one set throughout all 29 member states + EEA states.

The UK has provided views already.

TTIP has still got 2 years of negotiations to go!

Anyone thinking it will impact EU safety laws is delusional.

They're looking to harmonise.

USA will end up adopting our law or equivalent. In some cases for safety. EU laws are better.

They know this. It'll cut costs when we agree harmonisation through TTIP

Work to common safety standards

Mate, I'm usually a big supporter of your various stances on many subjects on this site.

But on this occasion you are so far off the reality of the situation.

Coach · February 7, 2015

rascal said:
Sorry to sound like one of those lilly white liberal types but there's absolutely nothing positive about it from a humanistic point of view.

I think this is the nub of it. Don't apologise, that's what these [Poor language removed]'s want you to do. Tug the forelock. Yes massa.

TX Bill · February 7, 2015

Walks in.

"...that evil USA...."

Walks out.

orchard · February 7, 2015

I think the main focus is the role of corporations, and they're Uber-National, oddly.

TX Bill said:
Walks in.

"...that evil USA...."

Walks out.

TX Bill · February 7, 2015

orchard said:
I think the main focus is the role of corporations, and they're Uber-National, oddly.

Sorry then. What I should have said was:

Walks in.

"....evil capitalism...."

Walks out.

bizzaro · February 7, 2015

the esk said:
Mate, I'm usually a big supporter of your various stances on many subjects on this site.

But on this occasion you are so far off the reality of the situation.

Read the article I posted. From one of the TTIP EU negotiators.

when negotiations were going on with other countries there was less hysteria. Far less.

wm02 · February 7, 2015

One of the better songs in the Naughty by Nature catalogue

magicjuan · February 7, 2015

bizzaro said:
Legaleese is all about word play and semantics.

You're completely out of the process. Out of your depth.

The EU has already said it won't water down existing safety or environmental legislation. What they're looking for is harmonisation. A process for it.

Competition is less of an issue as existing national and EU trade law already applies to the likes of the NHS. Allowing member states to be directly involved in healthcare provision.

Ttip opponents are hysterically arguing against something that will not happen anyway. ie complete adoption of a US healthcare model

Erm, ok. You win. Cba.

orchard · February 7, 2015

Hahaha, if only it was that simple mate.

As someone stated wisely earlier, taken from a humanist perspective, it's shocking.

TX Bill said:
Sorry then. What I should have said was:

Walks in.

"....evil capitalism...."

Walks out.

steken1 · February 7, 2015

TX Bill said:
Walks in.

"...that evil USA...."

Walks out.

America, feck yeah....

Basil Fawlty · February 7, 2015

bizzaro said:
Read the article I posted. From one of the TTIP EU negotiators.

when negotiations were going on with other countries there was less hysteria. Far less.

Yeah, you're right. It's not as if the Trans-Pacific Partnership is causing much outrage.

bizzaro · February 7, 2015

Basil Fawlty said:
Yeah, you're right. It's not as if the Trans-Pacific Partnership is causing much outrage.

Thats a US-Asia trade deal. Nothing to do with the us.

Like I said. People are acting like the EU negotiators are incompetent. They're not.

They're going to force the US to adopt our safety standards (via equivalent laws). That will benefit the US. Increase trade and reduce duplication.

Like I said. Stop listening to the lobbyists and think for yourselves.