Yes or No: post WBA result should Martinez be sacked?

kenada_blue · January 20, 2015

1 penalty away from this being a non-issue.

Hull away was the bottom. West Ham improved. City massively. West Ham away, almost turning that corner.

Then a player gets selfish and misses a penalty.

When you're out of form, you need that luck. We had it and then threw it away.

We win last night, players calm. The fans stay off their back. They get back to playing.

Now we've got to hope we get something at Palace.

I honestly believe Mirallas could've ended our season.

davek · January 20, 2015

AlE said:
Don't say that with the derby coming up, mate.. You're just tempting fate!!

Eddie Munster's goal is already pencilled in. We need to find one already just to stand a chance of a point.

davek · January 20, 2015

kenada_blue said:
1 penalty away from this being a non-issue.

Hull away was the bottom. West Ham improved. City massively. West Ham away, almost turning that corner.

Then a player gets selfish and misses a penalty.

When you're out of form, you need that luck. We had it and then threw it away.

We win last night, players calm. The fans stay off their back. They get back to playing.

Now we've got to hope we get something at Palace.

I honestly believe Mirallas could've ended our season.

It was unforgivable what he did. The fact he couldn't appreciate the situation just tells you what sort of player he is. Talented to a degree, but not a team player.

Keep him and use until May, then sell him to whoever for £14/16M.

sheedys left foot · January 20, 2015

This might cheer you all up a bit

R.Reddington · January 20, 2015

sheedys left foot said:
This might cheer you all up a bit

Get him in the first team

roydo · January 20, 2015

davek said:
It was unforgivable what he did. The fact he couldn't appreciate the situation just tells you what sort of player he is. Talented to a degree, but not a team player.

Keep him and use until May, then sell him to whoever for £14/16M.

With a heavy heart, I have to agree mate.

kenada_blue · January 20, 2015

sheedys left foot said:
This might cheer you all up a bit

3-0 up as well lol

kenada_blue · January 20, 2015

davek said:
It was unforgivable what he did. The fact he couldn't appreciate the situation just tells you what sort of player he is. Talented to a degree, but not a team player.

Keep him and use until May, then sell him to whoever for £14/16M.

Andy Gray says he should apologise. He should.

He won't though. I bet he doesn't even think he's done anything wrong..apart from miss it.

Foot Long Hot Dog · January 20, 2015

davek said:
Basically he's tried manfully to adapt Moyes' cloggers at the back to a football style they are alien to. It worked for a while, but now these players have to go. He can tell them to play without fear all he wants, but they're not good enough and they dont care that much is how I see it.

What utter bilge

Centre backs prime job is to defend, they defended well last season and there was no issue with their adaptation to his style post a few early scares. The more time elapses the more it looks like the defensive solidity was a hangover from the Moyes era.

This season the entire team has defended like drains, they've not been well drilled, not been working hard enough to close down, block and win second balls and it's down to him and his training and coaching methods. They've basically been a typical Martinez side, poor at the back, easy to play against and losing most weeks

Nashtbs · January 20, 2015

After a day of 'cooling off' or whatever people want to call it. I'm still a yes.

He should go, we've been playing poorly for the majority of the season (barring europa) and this run we're in is utterly dreadful. For all the derision Pulis gets, haven't we only taken 2 points from him whilst Martinez is in charge over 3 games? 2 of those games were at goodison ffs.

His record isn't good enough, he hasn't sorted out problems quick enough and right now he's sinking. 1 win in 13 is not acceptable for a club such as ours.

And yes, i'd take Sherwood, monumental bell but his record at spurs was good and brought some players through in a short time. Any shouts of Duncan Ferguson reek of Alan Shearer at the horse punchers too.

bizzaro · January 20, 2015

davek said:
He should be banned from football. I'm not kidding either. If his tactics dont bring the game into disrepute then they need to have an amnesty for all those who've been fined or banned.

I'm willing to lay down £100 that Martinez turns all this around.

Remember when it comes to money. I know what I'm talking about #FFP

davek · January 20, 2015

kenada_blue said:
Andy Gray says he should apologise. He should.

He won't though. I bet he doesn't even think he's done anything wrong..apart from miss it.

Best way he can apologise is chip in with a few more goals.

I hope we can retain him, tbh...until summer. We're in a poor position and we cant cut our nose off to spite our face.

Even so, all through his career here he's been 'misquoted' a lot in the past over potential moves away. Sick of that. Sell him and bring a decent replacement in.

davek · January 20, 2015

Foot Long Hot Dog said:
What utter bilge

Centre backs prime job is to defend, they defended well last season and there was no issue with their adaptation to his style post a few early scares. The more time elapses the more it looks like the defensive solidity was a hangover from the Moyes era.

This season the entire team has defended like drains, they've not been well drilled, not been working hard enough to close down, block and win second balls and it's down to him and his training and coaching methods. They've basically been a typical Martinez side, poor at the back, easy to play against and losing most weeks

They were carried by Barry. Barry has been off form for a while and couldn't work the trick again for them.

If you cant see that Distin and Jagileka are substandard for the system we need to play then there's no hope for you.

davek · January 20, 2015

bizzaro said:
I'm willing to lay down £100 that Martinez turns all this around.

Remember when it comes to money. I know what I'm talking about #FFP

That money is safe as houses. None of the plotters will be rushing to take you up on it, let's put it that way.

Foot Long Hot Dog · January 20, 2015

davek said:
They were carried by Barry. Barry has been off form for a while and couldn't work the trick again for them.

If you cant see that Distin and Jagileka are substandard for the system we need to play then there's no hope for you.

If you can"t see that a centre backs ability on the ball is secondary to his prime purpose of protecting his goal then you really shouldn't be spouting off about the game mate.