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Zatara said:
Lukaku 28mil
McCarthy 13mil
Kone 5mil
Besic 2.5 (rising to 4mil)
McGeady (undisc)
Robles (undisc)

Total = 48.5


Fellaini 27.5 mil
Jelavic 6.5 mil
Anichebe 6mil
Duffy (undisc)

Total = 40mil

Perhaps it's worth noting thst in terms of actual transfer fees, Martinez has spent circa 8.5mil.

Lukaku, McCarthy and Besic are top notch players. Kone was signed at the start as an upgrade on jelavic and anichebe and other signings have been squad fillers and stop gaps.

I'd like to see what he can do with 20-30mil behind him to fill GK / CB / LW positions whilst removing the deadwood to free up wages.
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What about barry did we have to pay city 1.5 mill?
 

Zatara said:
Wages and transfer fees are budgeted separately though + hes had to sign loads of free players simply due to not having spent much in terms of a net spend.

What im trying to highlight is;

A-- with money hes gone for top players who all fit in well wirh our long term strategy

B-- hes not spemt much net spend wise and filled out the squad with a load of frees

C-- if he shifts out the deadwood now and summer he will free up alot in wages anyway + with TV money etc we should see some top signings based on what hes done with money.
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A- Like Kone, Robles, McGeady and Barry.
 
List the SEVEN players he' BOUGHT and show how the total in transfers equates to 20mil /16mil.

It's not possible.

joey_macmo said:
The way you're literally making things up as you go along makes you look like a wum.

you say nett spend is £8.5m when most sources have it around £20m (I reckon its about £16m)

you say he bought 3 players when he's bought 7

you say he's had to address an ageing squad when hes only made it older
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Zatara said:
Lukaku 28mil
McCarthy 13mil
Kone 5mil
Besic 2.5 (rising to 4mil)
McGeady (undisc)
Robles (undisc)

Total = 48.5


Fellaini 27.5 mil
Jelavic 6.5 mil
Anichebe 6mil
Duffy (undisc)

Total = 40mil

Perhaps it's worth noting thst in terms of actual transfer fees, Martinez has spent circa 8.5mil.

Lukaku, McCarthy and Besic are top notch players. Kone was signed at the start as an upgrade on jelavic and anichebe and other signings have been squad fillers and stop gaps.

I'd like to see what he can do with 20-30mil behind him to fill GK / CB / LW positions whilst removing the deadwood to free up wages.
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Your figures are wrong. #FFP

His net spend is lower than what you've stated.
 

joey_macmo said:
£10m is being generous. Kone £6m + a conservative £20k a week wages = £8m

Joel £1m + a conservative £10k a week = £2m

Alcaraz a conservative £20k a week wages = £2m

Makes £12m on crap that we won't get a penny back for.

An over achieving ageing squad?

The team he left contained 10 internationals and that's with Barkley and Stones waiting in the wings.

The average age of the players he's sold = 25

Average age of the players he's bought = 27

He's making the squad older he didn't inherit an ageing squad
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Seriously. Osman, Pienaar, Distin, Jags, Baines and Howard.

He has signed players that are too old but they've generally been squad fillers and frees.
 

Zatara said:
How so?
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Jelavic figure was £7.5 million. Not 6.5

Lukaku was not 28 million up front but will be based on appearances. So its net at the current time only 24 million.

McGeady and Robles between them was not more than 3 million for both.

You have to define the period also when quoting a net spend - this is a two year net spend figure.


The net spend up to this year on all the above was:

Lukaku 24mil (rising to 28mil)
McCarthy 13mil
Kone 5mil
Besic 2.5 (rising to 4mil)
McGeady (1)
Robles (2)

Total (as of 2/2/2014) = 48.5


Fellaini 27.5 mil
Jelavic 6.5 mil
Anichebe 6mil
Duffy (undisc)

Total = 40mil

The three year net spend of EFC is actually a small positive figure. We made £2million profit on Jelavic. We sold Rodwell for £12million and a gross spend of about about £15million (net spend = + 3.0 million for 2012/2013 season).

In cash terms the club was positive because for both periods we had the new TV money increases and especially in the last 12 months another £6 million additional cash per season (so that spending was fully financed and wouldn't have led to new debt).

This basically means been with the Lukaku transfer we've barely impacted our cash/finance reserves in this two year period.



Everton have around £10m to £15m real terms cash to spend in January or £20million in August (depending on spending in January; due to new tv payments being made) if we so wish.


So there is scope for the manager to go out and get players in January if he wants to and thinks that its good value.

There is nothing stopping the club as cashflows are pretty good at the time due to the massive jump in tv money and Premier League restrictions on wage increases (to £4 million on tv money only; the rest has to be other financed)


To make it clear. The club have entirely been enabled by TV money and are massively dependent on it. The latest deals with Kitbag and so on have financed directly any wage increases. (We keep saying the club must do better on commercial revenues).

@davek
 
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Zatara said:
List the SEVEN players he' BOUGHT and show how the total in transfers equates to 20mil /16mil.

It's not possible.
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Kone
Joel
Mcgeady
McCarthy
Lukaku
Besic
Galloway
Barry

It's actually 8. I've gone over all the figures with you before but you continue to just ignore them.

You're literally making stuff up as you go along
 
joey_macmo said:
Don't start going on about instalments ffp is not the issue here
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#FFP is the study of clubs finances of which I am master practitioner.

I'm hereby calling on Martinez to go out and spend some of the money I know he/EFC has available.

On problem positions (CB and winger)
 

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