Roberto Martinez discussion

applecrumble · January 1, 2015

Why must it be Hoofball or the chicken tiki taka bs - a good team should be able to play the right ball for the right situation

nsno-chris · January 1, 2015

davek said:
We wont get relegated. Have seen the table?

That wasn't the question

Stan Lee Park · January 1, 2015

davek said:
Yeah, whatever genius.

Even you must see that getting a team relegated from the Premier League is not a great thing to have on your cv.

ianefc · January 1, 2015

nsno-chris said:
Ok Dave.

Sure, he's feigned an injury just so Martinez is sacked, in his second season mind you.

Faultless logic once again

I know I thought that too, why would they now do this trying to get rid of the manager. It makes no sense if they were Moyes obsessed and didn't like the manager that would have happened last season, wouldn't it?

Allezfan · January 1, 2015

toffee matt said:
My impression (just a guess really!), is that several of the senior players never wanted him in the first place , begrudgingly accepted him while things were going well but waiting to turn the screw when we hit a bad patch.

Now we've hit a bad patch the so called " senior players " are hanging the manager out to dry

Howards not even in the team, how is he hanging the manager out to dry?

nsno-chris · January 1, 2015

ianefc said:
I know I thought that too, why would they now do this trying to get rid of the manager. It makes no sense if they were Moyes obsessed and didn't like the manager that would have happened last season, wouldn't it?

Not in Daves world; everything is a plot against our Bobby

toffee matt · January 1, 2015

Allezfan said:
Howards not even in the team, how is he hanging the manager out to dry?

Don't think it's just Howard .

Toffeelover · January 1, 2015

toffee matt said:
My impression (just a guess really!), is that several of the senior players never wanted him in the first place , begrudgingly accepted him while things were going well but waiting to turn the screw when we hit a bad patch.

Now we've hit a bad patch the so called " senior players " are hanging the manager out to dry

I think this is nonsense TBH, the players are having a difficult time trying to make the system given to them, work. look at today and the changes following the subs, players just do not know whether they are coming or going. All very well for Dave to single out Jags, Distin and an other but it is not easy to get rid of players who do not want to go and also if no club wants them. If we are stuck with them how can they be replaced?

Dymak · January 1, 2015

davek said:
You have no idea what you're talking about. I backed Moyes pretty much all the way...as opposed to the kneejerkers on here pulling out their knives on a man here 18 months.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm sure I can remember you being rather critical of Moyes. Going on about how he thought he was bigger than the club etc, maybe it was someone else.

Either way, Martinez does not have a spectacular record, he has record that includes a lot of bad defending and conceding goals by the bucket load.

daz4matty · January 1, 2015

nsno-chris said:
Not in Daves world; everything is a plot against our Bobby

The biggest plotter is martinez,nobody is trying harder than him to get the boot

Foot Long Hot Dog · January 1, 2015

Alcaraz and Robles are mince, never good enough to wear the shirt.

2-0 down a crap side like Hull and he sends them out for the 2nd half with 3 CB's Baines and Naismith as the central midfield pairing. He's lost the fecking plot.

ianefc · January 1, 2015

We have played with 4 formations in the last 3 games, smacks of a man on the edge, desperate to stumble upon something that he hasn't got the ability to do with this squad.

davek · January 1, 2015

nsno-chris said:
Not in Daves world; everything is a plot against our Bobby

Ha Ha Ha.

Says the man who plotted his downfall even before he arrived.

You have zero credibility in this debate mate. None whatsover. The people now concerned about our situation are a million miles away from you and your longstanding opposition to this manager.

Azza · January 1, 2015

People seem to think we can splash the cash in Jan. Get fresh faces in and all that. Why would any quality player come to us as we are now and with no EU football next season?

nsno-chris · January 1, 2015

davek said:
Ha Ha Ha.

Says the man who plotted his downfall even before he arrived.

You have zero credibility in this debate mate. None whatsover. The people now concerned about our situation are a million miles away from you and your longstanding opposition to this manager.

Hahahahaha another peach; how did I plot his downfall.

Oh yeah I forgot, i've been secretly tapping the players up and telling them to go against the manager.

In fact I bumped in to Tim Hoard just before christmas in Tesco, I said "Tim, what you need to do is fake an injury, so Robles plays and we can be even worse then we already are". Suprisingly enough, he agreed.

I aleady proved you wrong off the other week when I posted my praising of him, i'm not going to hide and say I didn't want him in, because I didn't. We are playing awful, hes the manager with no idea and takes the brunt of the blame for his selections and tactics.

And your friend Roberto is sounding more delusional than Brendan and your becoming more of conspiracy theorist than those neighbours of ours; players feigning injuries to get the manager sacked, pack it in