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Think people are being harsh on Lukaku. Tonight was just all about Barkley and Mirallas on the attacking side, Rom never really got a look in. People need to realise that unless he gets service then he's not going to score.
 
Lukaku was terrible tonight, utter pants.
Besic and Barkley, different class.

Pretty much this. Naismith did well too.

Personally, I'd like to see us get to Barkley a bit quicker and keep Rom on the centre half, instead of playing along the back line and forcing Rom to drop deep, but we all know that isn't going to happen under Martinez.
 

He'll score between 14-20 yet again this season.

I hope so. It is easy to forget his goal scoring record even this season when highlighting his faults, which shows how good he is at putting away chances. Fans are suckers for a hard worker though eh, even me sometimes!
 

Think people are being harsh on Lukaku. Tonight was all just Barkley and Mirallas, Rom never really got a look in. People need to realise that unless he gets service then he's not going to score.

People aren't talking about the lack of goals (there isn't a lack of goals); that isn't the criticism. The criticism is his role in the system.

To get chances in the role he's asked to play, he has to be creating them by being the focal point of the initial attack. It's a role he cannot do it seems.

Lukaku's goals come from individual bits of magic because he's naturally gifted at slotting, but when he doesn't slot he's utterly pointless otherwise.

It isn't like the old fashioned poacher/goal hangers though, as they've gone from the modern game. Lukaku isn't that - he's meant to be a cog in the build up play, but he's a liability who manages to get a goal every game or so.

I can see why people can't understand the criticism, as they'll look at his goal tally and think, "well, that ain't bad!" - but it's deeper than that. You know those games we've looked ineffectual, slow and sluggish going forward? It's largely because everything breaks down around Lukaku in the first instance, and the slow passing around defence is because he isn't taking up the right positions to get the play flowing quicker.
 
Del wanting us not to sign a world class striker though. Shocking. He's gonna have bad games, at least he will score in those bad games. Very quiet tonight granted.

Agree.

Lukaku can and did struggle when there is no space behind the defence.

Poor game today, but his critics thrive on it - he'll score next game and you won't hear a peep from them.

Cringe every time I see/hear someone moaning about his effort/aerial ability - they just don't understand football.
 
People aren't talking about the lack of goals (there isn't a lack of goals); that isn't the criticism. The criticism is his role in the system.

To get chances in the role he's asked to play, he has to be creating them by being the focal point of the initial attack. It's a role he cannot do it seems.

Lukaku's goals come from individual bits of magic because he's naturally gifted at slotting, but when he doesn't slot he's utterly pointless otherwise.

It isn't like the old fashioned poacher/goal hangers though, as they've gone from the modern game. Lukaku isn't that - he's meant to be a cog in the build up play, but he's a liability who manages to get a goal every game or so.

I can see why people can't understand the criticism, as they'll look at his goal tally and think, "well, that ain't bad!" - but it's deeper than that. You know those games we've looked ineffectual, slow and sluggish going forward? It's largely because everything breaks down around Lukaku in the first instance, and the slow passing around defence is because he isn't taking up the right positions to get the play flowing quicker.

No. Just no.

You're saying Lukaku is a hold up/target man.

*gives up*
 

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