ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

[ToffeeDoug]

If black people really do do this amount of jumping then we should definitely be expecting Lukaku to win more headers.

 

[Ashtonian]

to be fair, having not seen the offending picture, is it really that bad?

Would people be up in arms if it was a random fella on facebook that posted it?

And can a racial comment from the race in question be classed racist?

 

[caught]

to be fair, having not seen the offending picture, is it really that bad?

Would people be up in arms if it was a random fella on facebook that posted it?

And can a racial comment from the race in question be classed racist?

1. It's one of those occasions where intent and content are separated by the large gap of ignorance. It's not malicious.

2. Some people would, yeah, but it probably wouldn't make the news.

3. Absolutely yes.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

to be fair, having not seen the offending picture, is it really that bad?

Would people be up in arms if it was a random fella on facebook that posted it?

And can a racial comment from the race in question be classed racist?

No, it's a nothing comment, jumped on by the perma offended to satisfy their bloodlust.

Another example of why footballers shouldn't have social media feeds that aren't managed.

 

[Ashtonian]

1. It's one of those occasions where intent and content are separated by the large gap of ignorance. It's not malicious.

2. Some people would, yeah, but it probably wouldn't make the news.

3. Absolutely yes.

So to clear up, a black man can be racist regarding a steriotype about black people with no actual intent to begin with to be offensive to back people?

 

[The Cowboy]

Rio Ferdinand calling Ashley Cole a Choc Ice was far worse if you ask me.

 

[cjuk87]

Rio Ferdinand calling Ashley Cole a Choc Ice was far worse if you ask me.

All cowboys ride horses, shoot guns and wear smelly ponchos

 

[Dithering Dougie]

 

[The Cowboy]

All cowboys ride horses, shoot guns and wear smelly ponchos

<slowly places glass of sippin' liquor on the bar and turns around>

'The man who comes to this saloon and throws around that sorta language better be mighty quick on the draw.'

 

[tsubaki]

I dont think Liverpool will put up much of a fight on this, tbh. It'll be very convenient for Rodgers to use the issue to draw a line under a very expensive mistake.

He'll be off in January.

It will certainly be interesting to contrast how they deal with this, and how they dealt with a previous forward racially abusing an opponent. Will there be t-shirts at Leicester?

 

[caught]

So to clear up, a black man can be racist regarding a steriotype about black people with no actual intent to begin with to be offensive to back people?

Well, your question was "And can a racial comment from the race in question be classed racist?" I think it's fairly obvious that it can.

To answer your more specific question: yes again, because perception isn't controlled by the agent using the words. It doesn't necessarily mean the individual has to be lambasted for what they've said or written, but if a person is offended by a racial comment from a member of their own race they obviously have the right to say so, although it may be wiser for them to attempt to explain why and educate rather than demonise them.

The hypersensitivity around the term racist obviously adds to the complexity of the situation.

 

[Tubey]

No, it's a nothing comment, jumped on by the perma offended to satisfy their bloodlust.

Another example of why footballers shouldn't have social media feeds that aren't managed.

It really is this. The examples of it now are beyond the pale. People are idiots.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Should have just said his account was hacked like any self respecting politician would do.

 

[The Cowboy]

It really is this. The examples of it now are beyond the pale. People are idiots.

We're only fanning the flames cos it's the RS. If this was an Arsenal player we would go 'tut tut, silly boy' and move on.

 

[ToffeeDan]

So to clear up, a black man can be racist regarding a steriotype about black people with no actual intent to begin with to be offensive to back people?

I don't think it can be racist if the joke is told within your group but it is questionable if it isn't - it's pretty hard to accuse a black person of being racist if they resort to telling jokes about their own and to laugh off the stereotype by embracing it - seem to remember Spurs fans wanting to own the term "Yids" in order to reduce the effect of others calling them unpleasant names. You can't insult some one so well if they refuse to rise to the insult - like LGBT now tend to own the rather unpleasant term "Queer" which has, largely, disappeared from common use.

Of course this is just my POV and others might be offended if someone within their (ethnic) group took offence.