The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

SerenityNigh · August 3, 2014

roydo said:
Dunno really. West Ham are not going to own the Olympic stadium are they? No idea how the ownership of Citeh's ground works either.

So if a new stadium was built nearby, and Everton were the main tenants, on a long lease or something, not sure if that makes us more attractive or not to those elusive investors.

Doesn't really matter who owns it if you've got a 50/75/99 year lease at a set price.

SerenityNigh · August 3, 2014

dholliday said:
I think us owning the stadium would make us more attractive, as it's a solid asset.

Add the debt and you've got your answer. Do assets + liabilities improve or hinder the balance sheet?

dholliday · August 3, 2014

SerenityNigh said:
Add the debt and you've got your answer. Do assets + liabilities improve or hinder the balance sheet?

Depends on the ratio of asset/liability.

Anyone know this figure or is it confidential?

SerenityNigh · August 3, 2014

dholliday said:
Depends on the ratio of asset/liability.

Anyone know this figure or is it confidential?

Aren't we talking about a new stadium? Liabilities would be cost to build and operate. Assets would be income, depreciation, etc.

dholliday · August 3, 2014

SerenityNigh said:
Aren't we talking about a new stadium? Liabilities would be cost to build and operate. Assets would be income, depreciation, etc.

My bad. I was thinking in terms of what we own in ratio to what we owe.

Steve Wigan · August 3, 2014

davek said:
'Sleazy little filing cabinet.'

PMSL.

I love the way the Kenwright apologists operate on here. Point out Emperor Kenwright's new clothes and it's "You're stalking him and you're abusing me, it's not fair"...or it's "that's slander against the owners - I'll have you in the law courts". All of it designed to shut down debate. It's all fairly transparent.

..but the fact is

EverBlue86 said:
so that's what they call it nowadays lol lol

Moomin · August 3, 2014

dholliday said:
Depends on the ratio of asset/liability.

Anyone know this figure or is it confidential?

http://toffeeweb.com/season/13-14/comment/fan/26701.html

Good breakdown on the last set of accounts

dholliday · August 3, 2014

Moomin said:
http://toffeeweb.com/season/13-14/comment/fan/26701.html

Good breakdown on the last set of accounts

Bit disappointed I didn't get horny animals, but thanks anyway.

Moomin · August 3, 2014

dholliday said:
Bit disappointed I didn't get horny animals, but thanks anyway.

Bit disappointed with myself now.

COYB · August 3, 2014

ffs ross out

Garymc2412 · August 3, 2014

Build it and they will come

dholliday said:
Could we come close to filling it every home game? The games against the top 6/7, yeah, but the other 12 or 13 home games a season?

RaleighBlue · August 4, 2014

Zatara said:
Poppycock.

The premier league has been on TV in many Asian countries for over a decade.

Have you ever been to Asia? I find it comical that such a comment would offend you when most football fans out here freely admit they are glory supporters (except the RS fake fans). Thats such an obtuse comment it really is quite funny really. If you actively researched supporters clubs in the region I highly doubt staging a game would even cover the costs -- look at Thailand with chang how much is thst generating? If there was interest then another sponsor would see the value and pay FAR more for sponsorship.

Even a simple youth setup like milan and barca have done out here -- there is NO market for it.

I have first hand knowledge of the above.

As for the US, I'd guess you're American and so clearly biased whereas I hold a neutral and informed viewpoint.

You need something to market and thats clearly not going to be the situation without champions league.

EDIT -- your second paragraph is simply a LIE. Historically, what in the 1950s ?!

Madness.

H'ok.

So I'm at a keyboard. Ace.

Let's put Asia to one side for a moment. As you explicitly called Yanks all glory hunters. And you say I have a biased viewpoint whilst you're neutral and informed.

Which is why Rocky is the biggest sports movie ever here. Right? The one about the poor Italian kid from Philly taking on the Champion of the world and losing valiantly? We're totally all glory hunters. Which is also why The Chicago Cubs are an enormous draw. Or why Notre Dame (who have not been good since...the 80's!) are general America's college football team.

You are uninformed. American's like story and drama. The biggest clubs winning constantly robs us of drama. There is a reason all of our sports have playoffs and we generally adore the concept of parity - we love to see the 'underdog' win, and these things make it more likely to happen. As soon as a team wins a few time here they become demonized in the eyes of the masses.

Yes, there are glory hunters. But to act like the entire nation is filled with them is not unbiased, it is incorrect. The New York Yankees probably have the largest fanbase, as they win the most stuff - but they're also the most hated team. And the thing with the US? It's freaking huge. Getting 5% of the US to support the club would be an enormous mind blowing windfall (it's 15 million people). We also have money to burn and love to buy crap. Put the a logo on something and we'll buy it. We're pretty simple that way.

your second paragraph is simply a LIE. Historically, what in the 1950s ?!

Until last year Americans that had upgraded cable packages could watch about 4 Premier League matches a week. Those matches were - Saturday early, 1 match from Saturday at normal kickoff. And Sunday matches that didn't overlap. If there was a late game it would also be on.

That's it. You know who plays the early and late matches most often? The Sky 4. So that's who American got to watch. Which meant that's who they became familiar with and began to root for. Now, Americans with an interest in the sport can watch every single match every single week. This means it's easier than ever for Everton to get into their brain.

In my entire time here most of the PL fans I've met are Arsenal or Spurs fans. Because they explicitly do not want to be seen as glory hunters and do not want to root for the monied clubs or for United.

As for Asia, fair enough. I am not Asian, nor do I live in Asia. I do find it hard to believe that in a continent of billions that there is absolutely no way to approach the market except by winning all the time, but I'll accept that I may be incorrect.